Thanks Glenn. I felt pretty good the other night when I got back to the boat ramp. There was a group of 3 guys taking out that had been crappie fishing and the guy told me he had been crappie fishing for 30 years and this was the worst year he had ever had. He said they'd fished all day and had 12. We had fished that afternoon and we had 14, so I was tickled with that. If I can take another butt whipping on dock shooting, I'll call you this fall. LOL