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    So now ... Does anyone want to take a shot as to why the Humminbird chart screen rotates crazily at lower boat speeds on the Chart Orientation setting of "Heading Up" or "Course Up" ...??

    (I do not know for sure if Lowrance has this issue) ...

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    From Lowrance.

    North up


    Heading up.


    Course up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnvinc View Post
    So now ... Does anyone want to take a shot as to why the Humminbird chart screen rotates crazily at lower boat speeds on the Chart Orientation setting of "Heading Up" or "Course Up" ...??

    (I do not know for sure if Lowrance has this issue) ...

    Rickie
    For Humminbirds, I think it happens with the older gps pucks at less than .5 or .6mph which is when you see the "Donut". I don't think it happens with the newer HS pucks but not sure as I don't have one yet....LOL Just a guess that it might have something to do with course projection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnvinc View Post
    So now ... Does anyone want to take a shot as to why the Humminbird chart screen rotates crazily at lower boat speeds on the Chart Orientation setting of "Heading Up" or "Course Up" ...??

    Rickie
    The HB Chart Orientation being drawn on the Chart view Defaults to North Up anytime the unit cannot calculate "Course" (remember Course is the direction the vessel is moving) ...

    "Course" is a calculation (in the HB unit) between successive GPS data samples (taken from the satellites) to determine if the vessel (on the Earth) has moved from the previous GPS data sample (received by the GPS antenna) to the next successive GPS data sample (received by the GPS antenna) ...

    Example ...: GPS data sample 1 has a latitude/longitude of "N xx W xx" ... The very next GPS data sample has a different latitude/longitude showing the vessel has moved "X" number of feet from the position of GPS data sample 1 = and thus calculates the vessel has moved in that direction (and plots onto the Chart view the boat icon as "Course moving in that calculated direction) ...

    Due to the inaccuracy of the the GPS system (spec-ed at 8-10meters 95% of the time) - when the vessel doesn't move far enough in a certain amount of time (think less than 0.6mph) = the HB unit cannot calculate "Course" ... resulting in the unit re-drawing the boat icon (boat icon indicating Course can be calculated) into a circle (circle indicating Course cannot be calculated) ...

    If the HB Chart Orientation setting is set to "Course Up" - and the vessel is moving fast enough = "Course" can continually be calculated from the successive GPS data samples - and the unit keeps the the Chart Orientation drawn on the display as the user selected Course Up ... meaning "Course (the direction the vessel is moving) is at the top of the screen ...

    When the vessel slows down (think less than 0.6mph again) - and the unit cannot calculate Course = the unit Defaults the map orientation on the display to "Default North Up" ...

    Thus = every time the vessel slows below 0.6mph Chart Orientation drawn on the Chart view Defaults to North Up ...

    And every time the vessel speed up past 0.6mph Chart Orientation drawn on the Chart view reverts to the user selected setting of "Course Up" ...
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    Setting the HB Chart Orientation selection to "North Up" keeps the map drawn as "North at the top of the screen" - regardless if Course can be calculated or not ...

    The boat icon still changes to a circle at below 0.6mph (meaning Course cannot be calculated) = but the Chart no longer will spin with the Chart Orientation selection set at "North Up" ...

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    Just got in on this, Rickie. I ALWAYS use North up, regardless of how I'm navigating. I can still stay oriented on my destination, because being ex-military that's the way we're trained. The course up or heading up would confuse me. But...whatever works for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyman View Post
    Just got in on this, Rickie. I ALWAYS use North up, regardless of how I'm navigating. I can still stay oriented on my destination, because being ex-military that's the way we're trained. The course up or heading up would confuse me. But...whatever works for you!
    I also use North Up myself ... Just makes more sense to my orientation on the Earth ...

    I always get a chuckle when guys say they use Course Up and then I ask them how they read a paper map ...

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    One more comment, Rickie. In North up, the azimuth you are heading is always displayed on the left side of the screen. 0 ° is North, 90° is due East, 180°is due South, 270° is due West. Just like reading a compass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnvinc View Post
    I also use North Up myself ... Just makes more sense to my orientation on the Earth ...

    I always get a chuckle when guys say they use Course Up and then I ask them how they read a paper map ...

    Rickie
    Sorry for being such a novice but in 30 minutes I could not find how to select North Up in chart orientation for my Helix 10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaire View Post
    Sorry for being such a novice but in 30 minutes I could not find how to select North Up in chart orientation for my Helix 10.


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    Go to your Navigation page.

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    Excellent. Actually it was two pages before Nav and on page 143. You got me close enough and thank you so much.


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