Thanks for that information. I will try that if the wind is to bad. Hope to see ya out there. Try and talk the tool into coming down wed. All he needs is a sitter. Also on the lake Wylie social if the snow comes in like they are calling for , what day would you reschedule the social for. I am working this weekend anyway so if you move it back there is a chance I would be able to make one of these. Let me know.