Geez, My buddy and I were humbled again. Went out with Todd on upper Ft. Gibson yesterday. My buddy caught a couple of 10 inchers...I got 3 a little bigger...Todd keeps reeling in the slabs one after another. I believe some guys just have IT...whatever IT is. You know when you're fishing side by side with somebody that there is just something that the gifted fishermen feel on their line. Some guys just have the touch, or 6th sense, or whatever you want to call it. Nevertheless, we got schooled. If you want to watch a Master, book a trip with him. I guarantee you will have a good time.