I would post this in the kayak section but I don't think there are any crankers there. I went out and bought me some 200 and 300 bandits to try crankin in my kayak. Everything was going ok, I was crankin in about 15 to 20 foot in open water and all of a sudden I saw something on my ff and it was big. Then at once all 4 poles were hung up in this sunken tree. I was pushing cranks so I had a heavy weight in front of each bandit. I had bought me a lead bait knocker but it would only slide down and hit the weight and stop. To top it all of when I let the knocker down it wasn't tied on good and as I jigged it up and down a few times it came off the string and of course when I broke the string of to the bait I lost it too. At $5 a pop there has to be a better way to do this. HELP!!!! By the way, the kayak worked pretty well for pushing cranks.