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I've always used the thread type but they start to slip after a dozen or so fish are caught. This past weekend I tried the ones on the left of this pic and they slipped on my first crappie I caught. I'm using 8lb test line. Anyone know of a good stopper that won't slip? Many years ago I remember my Dad tying rubber bands to his line, what a pain.
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I use the ones on the left, but have never had slipping trouble
I use the string type on the right but I wet the strings before pulling them tight, it gives it a better tighter hold
I have been using slip bobbers for a while and my favorite tie is a piece of black button thread . ( 99 pennies at the big box) I make a loop and hold it up to my line with the ends going the opposite direction. Then I take the right tag line and wrap it around the line and through the loop 4 times. Holding both ends of the line I pull it snug. This will form a knot on the line similar to the nail knot but easier. Trim the ends and be sure to wet the knot before you slide it. I use 8# Suffix (green) and EagleClaw bobbers . Had 14 crappie yesterday and the only way they would bite is with a bobber and minnow @14 ft.The button thread is coarse and it doesn't slip.
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Originally Posted by ifish
It's matter of opinion, I like the one that ifish use.
After trying several other types of stoppers I've gone back to the knot type. To make them last longer and easier to tighten up, tie an overhand knot in each tag end about a half-inch from the nail knot and pull them tight before trimming the tag ends off about another 1/8th-inch past the overhand knots.
That keeps the tag ends from fraying and gives you something to grip to re-tighten the knot as needed. If you hold the nail knot with your finger/thumb nails to tighten them it will damage the thread and cause them to deteriorate a lot faster.
If they seem a bit loose when I'm adjusting for depth I'll snug them up a bit by pulling on both tag ends. I use 8-pound Berkley XT and I don't have any trouble with them slipping.
If anything, I've had more trouble with getting them too tight, which makes them difficult to move and can cause them to burn the line if you move them too far too fast. It's best to get the knot and the line good and wet before moving the stopper up or down the line. They usually last me a month or two using them nearly every day.
I prefer Thill's bobber stoppers because they are made from smaller diameter thread than the others I've tried, which makes a smaller knot, which slips through the eyes on my rods better. I use Thill Pencil Floats and they have such a small hole that I don't even use the beads that come with the stoppers.
While I'm on the subject, another thing I've started doing recently is beveling the edge of the hole in the top of my slip floats. I just insert the tip of my scissors or the tip of the tooth on my split ring pliers in the hole and rotate the float putting firm pressure against the scissors or pliers until the hole is a bit larger at the opening and beveled at about 45-degrees rather than sharp.
This does three things:
1) Makes it easier to get the line started in the hole when threading the float on the line.
2) Lets the line slip through the float easier and faster.
3) Keeps the line from wearing a groove at the edge of hole in the top of the float, which can cause the line to hang up more.
I've been using the string type too and been tying them like Jerry said. Its never been a problem and easy to retighten when necessary. Like everyone else says, wetting them first before pulling tight really helps.
I've had better luck with some brands thread stops and worse luck with others. Jerry, do you have a link for where I could buy Thill's bobber stoppers?
You can get them from several on-line stores including Lindy Fishing Tackle - http://www.lindyfishingtackle.com/ta...roductid=17738 - but we've been getting them at our Gander Mountain and I think they were 5 bux for 50 the last time I picked some up. BPS and Cabela's probably have them too.
If you want to purchase them on-line, put "Thill Bobber Stops" in a Google search and find the best price with shipping.
Guess I'll have to try the button thread when the high priced stuff I bought from BP runs out.
I put mine on as Jerry states, wet it..... pull tight again, then I put a surgeons knot with the ends and burn the excess off with a lighter. I slide the nail knot upand cut the line where I had burned the ends of the Nail Knot. The surgeons knot just slows down the enevitable.
After 5 or 6 hours they still come apart (Darn em!).
I go to the drug store and buy cinniman (sp) dental floss- it's red and easier to see- it doesn't slip and works fine for me.
Sonny
What brand are you using? The Thill brand stoppers last for a month or two for me, using them nearly every day. I'd hate to have to replace them after every 5 or 6 hours of fishing for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridges
I use the thread stops I havnt had a problem with slipping. I use the gander mountain brand thread stops work very nice and are cheap.
I use the string type and dont cut the tag ends so i can tightin it if it slips.
In emergency I have had to use a broken rubber band. Tie a double knot tight on the line then snip the tag ends close to the knot. Slide it to the dept you want They proved to be as good as the ones I have payed cash for. Easy to adjust and easy to reel into the spool and cast through the eyes.
When I could not find a rubber band I made them from a strand of rubber skirt from a spinner bait.
I use the ones on the left and have never had any issues. I don't have the packages anymore but I thought they came in different sizes for line diameters. I am using mine on 10lb braid (2 lb mono eqiv.) with no issues but I thought the package had 2-6 lb on it. Could be wrong. The last I bought were BP brand but they don't list size on their website.