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    I have been powder painting 1/16 and 1/8 oz jig heads for my very first time and its not quite as easy as it looks. Jamie at Simply Crappie fixed me up with some jigs and paint and I read a lot of threads then watched some videos and set about powder coating my jig heads. I used a sterno flame and eventually a heat gun to preheat my jigs. I do not have a fluid bed so I fluffed up the powder and swished the heads around in the paint. Fluffing the powder every four or five jigs. After I had about fifty of them made I used a toaster oven to bake them.

    Challenge number one was cleaning out the hook eye after swishing them in the powder. What a chore this was. Some of them came out okay with only minimal cleaning needed and some of them came out fully coated. I was using a tooth pick and had little pieces of vinyl plugging the eyes and just generally being hard to remove. I would push the tooth pick through, spin it a couple of times, and pull it back. The vinyl would just build up in the eye. Eventually I got them all clean but what a chore. A couple of the jigs I let cool too much and the eye is simply closed up. A hook won't even pierce through to open the eye.

    Challenge number two was after letting them bake in my toaster oven at 350 degrees for fifteen minutes many of them had stalagmites dripping off. Some of them were just deformed a little and some turned out pretty good. Also, some of the paint melted into the hook eye and this was near impossible to open. Took a hook to pierce through the paint. A pair of wiring side cutters made short work of the stalagmites.

    Obviously I am applying too much powder to the jigs. What do I need to change to make this a much more successful evolution? Would a fluid bed help with this? Is the preheat too much / not enough? Would an oil lamp be a better choice for preheat? I'm pretty sure the jigs I used the heat gun on were better than those heated from the sterno. I have two kinds of powder paint, ProTec and Columbia, I can't say either of them performed better than the other.

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    When I was pouring I did it exactly like you are doing. I discovered the thermostat in the toaster oven was way off. (I used an oven thermometer to check it) That solved a lot of problems except the eyes were still a pain. Also after swishing the jig around in the paint, tap it on the side of the jar to get rid of the excess powder.
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    Jigs are almost too big for fluff and stuff - might think about getting a fluid bed...
    Heat your jigs just enough for the paint to stick - eyes are easier to clean - before you cure. I use a heat gun and count - while rotating the jig.
    Pre-heat your oven (at least 10 minutes) before you bake.
    I use a thermocouple wire to monitor temp while ramping up the temp. My target is 15 min. @ 220*F for all colors. All my paints are custom mixes.

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    I haven't started painting my own yet so I'm no expert. But I did watch SK's video and he heats up a paper clip to clean his eyes on his hooks. Just putting that out there as an idea you can try.

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    Call Jamie and get you a fluid bed to start. Then using heat gun heat head by slightly rotating head side to side for a count of 5 just dip in paint. Check your coverage then adjust your count up or down by one each time until you get the best coverage. It just takes practice. I have found every day is different based on air temp and humidity that affects how quick head heats and how well paint flows. I keep a coffee cup of water at my paint station. As soon as I dip in paint I watch for paint to slick over then dip in water to cool so easier to handle hook. Then I hang them on a rack until I have finished painting all I’m going to do. Then I sit with my old pocket knife and clean any excess paint from eyes. The cooler you can get the paint to cover the easier it is to clean excess off. Then I bake. Attached are a picture of my forceps and knife. Yes it’s a bit tedious but I can’t stand paint in eyes or on barb for plastics. Practice, Practice and more Practice and there are lots of guys way better than me at painting.
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    I agree with above posters, on oven temp, and heating jig to lowest temp the paint will adhere to the head and melt out, or get shinny. One trick I seen on a you tube video, and I apologize I don't remember who had it, is when gripping the jig to paint grip it covering the eye. Granted you will get a bit of paint adhering to the tips of your pliers or hemostats or what ever your gripping with, but it's easier to scrape it off them than trying to reopen those eyes back up. Since I started this way of gripping the jigs, I have not had to clean another eye out... and on the fluid bed, you will use less powder as it is suspended by the air flow. Same great coverage, just don't use as much...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cray View Post
    Call Jamie and get you a fluid bed to start.
    Who is Jamie selling fluid beds?

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    I would say keep swishing motion to a minimum while dipping. Gives you to much paint. I use a small propane plumbers torch. I get about two years out of a bottle of propane. A couple seconds and dip in my fluid bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave336 View Post
    Who is Jamie selling fluid beds?
    Might be referring to Bugman on the Missouri boards. I kind of thought that was who he was referring to when in the same post said he had gotten some jigs from him...
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    Look at one of my old posts...
    Keeping eyes clean - a new way?
    Keeping eyes clean - a new way?


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