I have never tried a wire guard, and I like your idea Doug. I can probably do a few of those to see how I like em. Z520Tom, those are exactly what I had in mind. I've done some low end mods with milling bits and a drill press but I'm kinda OCD and can't do something that I know will be second rate. That's why I haven't tried it. Yet. My OCD also wont let it pass til I try, no matter the outcome. One day I'll pull the trigger on something. And Bugman, I get low on what I have I'll give some of yours a shot. Thanks everyone.