Thread: Lot of talent and experience to do this.

Originally Posted by s_v

I think he kneels a lot on the water, that's the reason.

Agreed. Trout streams can be so clear, kneeling will help you catch fish.

Brush piles, buck Brush and stake beds are not the same as rock piles. We have rock piles too. Fish don't bury the in rock piles. They do in wood piles and they are going to wrap you up very quickly. You don't have time to play them. You have to control them and get them out of it.

Originally Posted by s_v

This is certainly a very good point. Brushes are scarce and there are no downed trees, but there are plenty of rock pilings that score your line, and trout seem to be very aware of that. I've never caught 8 lbs lightning trophy myself. But I've pulled in 2 lbs rainbow on 1.5 lbs line from the nastiest rock pile. The last 3-4 feet were completely chewed up and I could not believe that the line still held the fish.

But let me make another point. When it is not a trout season, I fish mostly saltwater. The shore fishing spots around here are made of huge rock pilings covered in mollusks with razor-sharp shells. If your line touches a rock – say goodbye to your lure or fish no matter the pound test. Just recently, I fished my ultralight (Yamaga Blanks BC 67 TZ Nano for those curious) with 2 lbs fluorocarbon leader and pulled in a croaker weighing over 2 lbs. My rod was bent in a letter C and the drag on my Luvias was tightened to the point that I though the line would break. But it didn't, the reel was feeding just enough line to the fish and the rod was parrying any attempt to dive into the rocks to prevent that. I managed to hold that fish in the mid-water column for about 5 min before I could pull it in and grip it. If you never fished saltwater before, I hope you have a chance. In the same weight category, saltwater fish will make largemouth bass feel like a baby tugging on a pacifier. That's the power of quality ultralight to me.

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Originally Posted by z520tom

Brush piles, buck Brush and stake beds are not the same as rock piles. We have rock piles too. Fish don't bury the in rock piles. They do in wood piles and they are going to wrap you up very quickly. You don't have time to play them. You have to control them and get them out of it.

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Very true in freshwater fishing. Hence my second point.

We spent some time down at Port Aransas in south Texas in the winters. Do have some experience the reds, specs and sheepshead. Can't imagine using 2#. To each his own I guess.

Originally Posted by s_v

This is certainly a very good point. Brushes are scarce and there are no downed trees, but there are plenty of rock pilings that score your line, and trout seem to be very aware of that. I've never caught 8 lbs lightning trophy myself. But I've pulled in 2 lbs rainbow on 1.5 lbs line from the nastiest rock pile. The last 3-4 feet were completely chewed up and I could not believe that the line still held the fish.

But let me make another point. When it is not a trout season, I fish mostly saltwater. The shore fishing spots around here are made of huge rock pilings covered in mollusks with razor-sharp shells. If your line touches a rock – say goodbye to your lure or fish no matter the pound test. Just recently, I fished my ultralight (Yamaga Blanks BC 67 TZ Nano for those curious) with 2 lbs fluorocarbon leader and pulled in a croaker weighing over 2 lbs. My rod was bent in a letter C and the drag on my Luvias was tightened to the point that I though the line would break. But it didn't, the reel was feeding just enough line to the fish and the rod was parrying any attempt to dive into the rocks to prevent that. I managed to hold that fish in the mid-water column for about 5 min before I could pull it in and grip it. If you never fished saltwater before, I hope you have a chance. In the same weight category, saltwater fish will make largemouth bass feel like a baby tugging on a pacifier. That's the power of quality ultralight to me.

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To each their own indeed. For me, subduing a strong fish with a light line under difficult conditions just adds another aspect to the enjoyment. I see plenty of people fishing next to me on the shore and pulling in sub-lb sand bass on 15 lbs leader. They never have their lines break, and they are satisfied, too.

P.S. To be clear, if I am going after legal halibut with a 4.5 inch swimbait, I do pack a 10-12 lbs leader.

I learned a lot from Charlie Brewer. Fished his slider worm and caught tons of bass. He is where I learned to cut the auto bail off my spinning reels but that's another story. I've got his book somewhere around here. Never fished it on 2# line and buggy whip rod though. Mostly 4# and 6# mono as I remember. His slider worm is a classic bass lure.

Originally Posted by deathb4disco

I learned how from the late, great Charlie Brewer about forty years ago.

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I agree with you. Unfortunately this panfish forum has become a infro commercial for high end Japanese rod companies and a plastic bait company.

Originally Posted by D10

It is unfortunate that the negativity is creeping into the Brim forum. I used to post on the Arkansas forum but the same thing happened there. The negativity does not make this place enjoyable. It tends to run people off.


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I think the issue here is different fish scenarios for different folks.

I'm different and kind of an anomaly from most of the crowd here since I fish mostly for trout under a wide variety of conditions and scenarios. JDM equipment is what drew me here.

2lb test won't cut it for trout on rivers with swift currents and submerged logs. Not only will one get spooled they will lose alot of lures. However in alpine lakes, reservoirs or slow deep rivers one has a good chance and if the trout are pressured 2lb test can mean success.

I live in Northern CA and trout can run big in the larger rivers. I don't fish the Sac river but big stripers up to 50lbs, salmon up to 30lbs and steelhead will ruin an UL fishers day.

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But hike and fish an alpine lake for cutts or goldens, or a SoCal Reservoir for stocked trout then one can use UL gear and lines to great success.





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