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Do you have any brushpiles and downed trees in your trout lakes that you have to use your rod to control your fish and keep them out of cover? I don't know how you would turn and control a large fish with your equipment. Here in my part of the country we have lots of cover in our lakes. If you stick a 5# bass, 2# crappie or a 1# shellcrackers you better be able to turn his head and control him. Been around a long time. Your not going to do it 2# line and a buggy whip rod. It's that simple.

Originally Posted by s_v

A lot of points made here have merit. Where I live and fish, 1-2 lbs lines are synonymous with trout fishing. I am mostly referring to stocker trout in local lakes. I see a number of fisherman with high end spinning and bait-casting gear (yes, BFS is a common occurrence on our trout lakes) that use extremely light lines to hunt for 5-8 lbs trophies. 2 lbs lines are particularly popular among those anglers. I have witnessed a couple of epic fights with lightning trout in the 7-8 lbs range. Those trout get their name for a very good reason. Whippy rods and flawless drag assemblies protect the light lines very well. Why do those guys use such light lines? Because they regularly outfish everyone else on the lake and pull in the biggest catch. For them and myself, it is worth it.

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Originally Posted by Fishfishwish

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Anyone know why he wears the bells?

I don’t have a clue about the bells. I watch a lot of Japanese fishing videos and of course there are the cultural differences...but just not sure. I just wish I could still get to streams like he goes to.....was about 15 years younger....and I’d take up the BFS game.

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I wasn't going to comment but just want to confirm as others have mentioned the red baitcast reel is without a doubt an older Ambassador 2500. I purchased one back in the late 70s at a nearby PX on an AFB for dirt cheap, it was my first baitcaster. Abu had just launched their "thumbar" feature a couple years earlier on other models (a friend had the thum bar model) and this was an older lower cost model but was very popular back in the day. It did not come with "high speed" gearing and those pearl grip handles were standard. Abu offered an upgrade kit to convert to it high speed gearing and they offered another larger handle with larger black grips. I did upgrade the handle on mine. Some folks preferred the lower gearing and slower retrieve on this model for worm fishing.

Abu also offered bright red fiberglass rods with gator pistols grips to match this reel, I had two of those rods as well. I sold my red ambassador reel about 5yrs ago on Ebay along with with a rare green Ambassador baitcast reel (NIB) to a collector in Norway. Made some good money on that deal.

The reel in the video could have upgraded bearings and gearing but that would be all. It does sport its original handle.

I'm curious as to why he is wearing waders for a creek that small but maybe he fishes some larger deeper pools not in the video. I used to fish similar creeks up here in the Sierras, the fish generally run small. When I was about 15yrs old I caught a brown about 12-13" and it was a monster for the small creek we were fishing, not surprised it came from under a log from the largest pool for that creek (about 6-8ft long).

Originally Posted by z520tom

I don't know how you would turn and control a large fish with your equipment.

I learned how from the late, great Charlie Brewer about forty years ago.

It is unfortunate that the negativity is creeping into the Brim forum. I used to post on the Arkansas forum but the same thing happened there. The negativity does not make this place enjoyable. It tends to run people off.


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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

I just wish I could still get to streams like he goes to.....was about 15 years younger....and I’d take up the BFS game.

I am very tempted. I still have the first rod my dad ever bought for me: a 4.5' ultra light Eagle Claw casting rod (with the old "pistol grip" handle.) I think I'm gonna mount a spincast reel on it and try it out.

I know his gear is much better than mine, but it should be fun, at the very least.

Not trying to argue disco. I respect your opinion. My problem is with comments on this forum that make RIDICULOUS and untrue statements. When someone says that these Japanese rods are superior to mine. I can cast just a far and feel bites (sensitivity) very well. So his superior statement is BS. Also saying that the more a blank cost the higher quality the blank. REALLY !
If somebody wants to get some good information on rods I recommend you go to www.rodbuilding.com .

Originally Posted by deathb4disco

I'm old enough to remember when this thread was about a video of a really good caster.

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Originally Posted by z520tom

Do you have any brushpiles and downed trees in your trout lakes that you have to use your rod to control your fish and keep them out of cover? I don't know how you would turn and control a large fish with your equipment. Here in my part of the country we have lots of cover in our lakes. If you stick a 5# bass, 2# crappie or a 1# shellcrackers you better be able to turn his head and control him. Been around a long time. Your not going to do it 2# line and a buggy whip rod. It's that simple.
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This is certainly a very good point. Brushes are scarce and there are no downed trees, but there are plenty of rock pilings that score your line, and trout seem to be very aware of that. I've never caught 8 lbs lightning trophy myself. But I've pulled in 2 lbs rainbow on 1.5 lbs line from the nastiest rock pile. The last 3-4 feet were completely chewed up and I could not believe that the line still held the fish.

But let me make another point. When it is not a trout season, I fish mostly saltwater. The shore fishing spots around here are made of huge rock pilings covered in mollusks with razor-sharp shells. If your line touches a rock – say goodbye to your lure or fish no matter the pound test. Just recently, I fished my ultralight (Yamaga Blanks BC 67 TZ Nano for those curious) with 2 lbs fluorocarbon leader and pulled in a croaker weighing over 2 lbs. My rod was bent in a letter C and the drag on my Luvias was tightened to the point that I though the line would break. But it didn't, the reel was feeding just enough line to the fish and the rod was parrying any attempt to dive into the rocks to prevent that. I managed to hold that fish in the mid-water column for about 5 min before I could pull it in and grip it. If you never fished saltwater before, I hope you have a chance. In the same weight category, saltwater fish will make largemouth bass feel like a baby tugging on a pacifier. That's the power of quality ultralight to me.