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    Quote Originally Posted by Balvar24 View Post
    Caught about 20 or 30 bluegill this morning from the bank casting out to some cover. Some were pretty decent size for the local lake, 8-9". Maybe a 10" or two. I could do better if I could get out to some deeper water. They were fat.

    Whats the difference in the Trout and Panfish magnets? I've been using the panfish magnet, but don't know why.

    Also, what am I going to need to do to get more distance out of these 1/64 oz jigs? My little Fenwick UL and Quick Microlite with 2lb SOS gets me about 30 or 35 feet and runs out of steam. May try my 7' rod tomorrow, but doubt that's going to help much. Will I see much more distance with one of those Leland TCB rods? I'm too clumsy and too cheap to got the JDM route.

    Thanks guys.
    A longer rod is not going to help you get any appreciable distance using the TM 1/64 ounce jig head with the SOS 2# test line. The line is your bottle neck. While it is good line it has a diameter of .160mm. I did casting test using the 1/64 jig head with the TSS and TCB rod. Both cast 45 feet. But I was using line with .115mm diameter. Years ago before I started using the JDM jig heads I would put a size B split shot about 18 inches above the jig head. That gives you some extra distance. But it’s best to just use a bigger jig head. I use a 1.5 gram jig head....US equivalent 1/19.......and I can cast a Trout Magnet coast to coast with .115mm diameter line.

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    Did you know that the trout magnet 1/64 jighead with a trout magnet on it actually weighs 1/32oz. I have actually weighed them.

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    [QUOTE=Alphahawk;4032820]A longer rod is not going to help you get any appreciable distance using the TM 1/64 ounce jig head with the SOS 2# test line. The line is your bottle neck. While it is good line it has a diameter of .160mm. I did casting test using the 1/64 jig head with the TSS and TCB rod. Both cast 45 feet. But I was using line with .115mm diameter. Years ago before I started using the JDM jig heads I would put a size B split shot about 18 inches above the jig head. That gives you some extra distance. But it’s best to just use a bigger jig head. I use a 1.5 gram jig head....US equivalent 1/19.......and I can cast a Trout Magnet coast to coast with .115mm diameter line.

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    My longer Shakespeare Microlite rod at 7' reaches farther for me out to the distance he is looking for using 1/64 oz and 0.15mm GAMMA ice line. I cannot reach that distance with my 5' St Croix Triumph UL rigged the same way even with1/32 jig heads, but with the 7' and 1/64 it is normal. So I maybe cheat a little using .15 mm GAMMA ice line because it is a bit softer and lays better on the spool better than their 2# Polyflex also at .15mm, but then I also only use Shakespeare Alpha reels, too, and still get the distance he is looking for. The longer the rod the greater the angle and so the more power it builds (and the faster the rod tip moves). Simple physics that I use on every outing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphahawk View Post
    A longer rod is not going to help you get any appreciable distance using the TM 1/64 ounce jig head with the SOS 2# test line. The line is your bottle neck. While it is good line it has a diameter of .160mm. I did casting test using the 1/64 jig head with the TSS and TCB rod. Both cast 45 feet. But I was using line with .115mm diameter. Years ago before I started using the JDM jig heads I would put a size B split shot about 18 inches above the jig head. That gives you some extra distance. But it’s best to just use a bigger jig head. I use a 1.5 gram jig head....US equivalent 1/19.......and I can cast a Trout Magnet coast to coast with .115mm diameter line.

    Baloney!
    My longer Shakespeare Microlite rod at 7' reaches farther for me out to the distance he is looking for using 1/64 oz and 0.15mm GAMMA ice line. I cannot reach that distance with my 5' St Croix Triumph UL rigged the same way even with1/32 jig heads, but with the 7' and 1/64 it is normal. So I maybe cheat a little using .15 mm GAMMA ice line because it is a bit softer and lays better on the spool better than their 2# Polyflex also at .15mm, but then I also only use Shakespeare Alpha reels, too, and still get the distance he is looking for. The longer the rod the greater the angle and so the more power it builds (and the faster the rod tip moves). Simple physics that I use on every outing.
    So in feet......how much more do you get with your 7 foot rod...and how far can you cast a Trout Magnet jig head with each rod?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphahawk View Post
    A longer rod is not going to help you get any appreciable distance using the TM 1/64 ounce jig head with the SOS 2# test line.
    Right, I didn't get any more distance going from a 6-1/2 ' rod to 7' rod with a TM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z520tom View Post
    Did you know that the trout magnet 1/64 jighead with a trout magnet on it actually weighs 1/32oz. I have actually weighed them.

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    Yeah I knew that. When my nephew and I pointed that out to the owner of Trout Magnet he went and weighed them and he too was surprised. If you will do an internet search you will find that the vast majority of US market jig heads weigh more than the stated weight.


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    [QUOTE=Alphahawk;4032848]
    Quote Originally Posted by no1son View Post
    So in feet......how much more do you get with your 7 foot rod...and how far can you cast a Trout Magnet jig head with each rod?
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    The 7' UL rod gives me about 15' extra distance over my 5' UL. The extra two feet gives something like 140% more leverage, which allows fishing the tiniest baits on the very light line needed to get a decent cast. That is using a line with a virtually identical diameter what the original poster was using, .15mm versus .16mm.
    The difference between a 6 1/2 and a 7 foot rod would of course be much less, perhaps nearly negligible.
    I do not fish Trout or Crappie Magnets although I carry some of them and their jig heads in my kit. I fish straight ball head jigs with and without the reverse tang, tipped with one of a variety of plastic tails almost exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z520tom View Post
    Did you know that the trout magnet 1/64 jighead with a trout magnet on it actually weighs 1/32oz. I have actually weighed them.

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    Yes, I had read that previously here on CC. That combo casts very well with the TSS. I had no trouble on the creek yesterday reaching my targets. SOwbug was the winning color for what I call the “Trifecta” - smallies, crappie, and pans. My first of the season.
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    I believe the TM jig head alone weight about .7 gram while 1/64oz from trout slayer kit weight at 0.6 gram go figure. If I want distance I upgrade to 1 gram jig head #6 hook and get a little more distance about 50’. As alphahawk mentioned line is important key to cast light lure. Ever since I use Nanofil 4 and 6 lb line I get a little more distance compare to same diameter braid.
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    I can throw a 1/32oz trout magnet very well with 4# fireline and a 4# fluoro leader on my 20 year old Loomis S781 spinning rods. Caught many gills and redears over the years casting 1/32oz jig flies that I tied from my boat fishing their beds. The rods that I used were built by myself.
    I have taken many factory built casting and spinning rods and rebuilt them. They are much improved in both weight and sensitivity.
    I have 3 G. Loomis IM6 casting rods I bought in the late 70's. I stripped and rebuilt 2 of them. When I show them to folks they cannot believe that they are the same blank. Sorry for the rambling.

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