Went with Grand Kids today, 7 & 6, to Bath NY way up on the Hill to small county park. Maybe a little bigger than a football field. Caught lots of pan fish, they had a ball. Fished some with top water when I wasn't helping them. A few big blow ups but no hook-ups. Put a trailer hook on and could not get any more. Going to try it some morning with the jon boat and no kids or maybe plunk down some money for a Kayak. Been talking about it for 2 yrs.