I just got my Dub L Seat 3 from John Thomason it looks great going be easy to use . Before you buy another brand check out the G 3 by John you want be sorry plus your buying from a great guy that fishes and is making them here in Mississippi . Check out his discount offers to certain people like vets . His phone number is 662-336-6319 Tell him Randy said call . I want get anything out of it don't want anything out of it but i do want him to know i believe in his product and thank him for being a great guy to deal with .