And I also personally think as fisherman we should take responsibility for what is happening on these lakes we fish instead of blaming other people and the way they fish. I guess what I'm saying is maybe we all should look in the mirror and talk to that guy in front of you. I have been fishing Washington for 5 or 6 years and I personally have seen the decline in the quality of fish. Is there still some 3lb fish in the lake maybe but not as many as it use to be.