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    I'm looking for everyone's opinion, experience, or observations in this as it really has me stumped!

    Normally, when I start working with an idea, a theory, or a different or new way of doing things, I can often make it work. This however is NOT a new way of doing something.

    I would love to see Don's experience and opinion in this matter (you will see in a minute why).

    Know that I have talked in length before about the differences between how we fish for crappies in the North vice how it is done in the South. They are much more successfull in regards to spider rigging than we are. I "used" to think that our clear water and fish being boat wary played a factor in our limited success however, two things I have found seem to point to something else.

    The first thing is that, over the last 4 months, I've had great success slow trolling (.4mph) jigs and minnows or hooks, sinkers, and minnows for crappies. Oftentimes this is right next to the boat, right in front of the boat, or right behind the boat. This really isn't trolling as much as it is controlling a drift per say. I've had no problems catching crappies to within a couple of feet of the surface of the water! So, then why would we still have issues spider rigging?

    Over the last couple of years I've played with something and had absolutily ZERO success with. I tried it again the other night with the same results! While I was fishing, I had a thought. What I was doing was very similar to how you would setup a rod for spider rigging!!!!!

    Many of us have used this before. Think of a perch rig. A bell weight on the bottom, a hook up above the weight, and then maybe another above that. This is also how a lot of spider rig rods are setup. Based on the speed they are pushing will determine the size weight they use in order to keep the line verticle as they move forward.

    So, I've tried EVERYTHING I can think of in order to make this work. Depth isn't an issue as I can be catching crappies right next to the same rod. I put a bell sinker on the bottom with the perfect amount of weight to keep the line verticle. I've tied hair jigs, flies, floating jigs, and regular hooks above my weight. I've tied them direct to the main line with a polymar knot, I've tied them free moving with a loop knot. I've used a caps and coleman type system. I've Used leaders off the main line. Heck, I've even used crappie rigs (similar to perch rigs). All of them have yielded me a grand total of ZERO fish!

    I guess the question might be: Why am I trying to utilize this technique when other ones work so effective? The answer is that I would like to have my line as verticle as possible (while slow trolling) in order to PIN my rods in different locations without the feer of tangles. It also allows me to have more hooks on one line.

    Understand that the minute I take off this rig, tie on a hook to my main line and then pinch on a split shot to get me mostly verticle, I can catch crappie like nobody's business.

    Why doesn't the bell sinker work? Is it because the minnow is allowed to move freely behind the sinker in my normal setup? Is it because the fish cannot sense the main line in this setup or the weight of the rig? Does it look more natural to them? I don't know the answer to the questions but it has me baffled. I did it the other night for 2 hours with the same results. MAYBE, just MAYBE, this is the reason why we don't have as much success spider rigging. Maybe the black crappies don't like this setup. The weight, they feel something not natural with the bait and spit it out before we ever see it? OR, maybe it is because crappie feed UP! With my normal setup, that bait behind the weight can move freely thus allowing them to swim upwards until the splitshot stops them. With the drop shot setup, the minute they have the bait in their mouth, they try to swim up and cannot more the weight!!

    Maybe the answer is longer leaders off the main line? I'm not done giving up on this yet but, I think I'm on to something in terms of feeding upward. For my next test I might change my leads out to be the normal length I use from a split shot to the hook. Maybe that is the key.

    Anyone else play around with this? Have any ideas about it? Thoughts or theories? I'm all ears.
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    My leaders using this Kentucky rig are 6 or so inches with a minnow. More often than not the black crappie I fish for hammer my rod. I would work on leader length most definitely and see what happens
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    I agree, try longer leaders. Maybe a 12 inches or more. Maybe the crappie feel the pressure wave of the line approaching, or the minnow has more movement.
    I have tried these rings for other fish, stationary worked best for me.
    Free lining minnows ot with a split shot works the best for me.

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    I think I am on to something with the leader length. I've never had an issue with these rigs for perch or other species but, I think it really has something to do with how they hit. With a short leader (say 4 inches or less), they have zero upward movement.

    I'm going to play around again on my next trip. Maybe a 12 inch leader will do it. This is what happens when I am not out on the walleye waters for an extended period of time. I start trying to figure stuff out!
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    I think water clarity is the biggest issue as far as when the crappie approaches potential food, how natural it looks, moves, etc. the one thing I took note of while fishing southern lakes Kentucky lake, reelfoot, etc. the lakes always had some stain to a light dirty or muddy looks, compared to our lakes. That being said, is why I say water clarity is top of the list, the crappie aren’t skittish of what they can’t see , when it comes to terminal tackle-bell sinkers, swivels, short stiff drop line
    But I think with our clear northern lakes , using the longer leaders in fluorocarbon line and moving the sinker to the middle or close to the bottom of the rig may work for better results


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    I have used a modified drop shot rig. Two hooks. Main line to a sinker with 12 inches of line from that to hook. About 12 to 18 inches up from the weight, I tie on another 12 inch leader to a hook. Rig works well. There is a danger of line tangles from trolling too slow or minnow movement.

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    Down here in MS....most of us rig using a 1/2 or 3/4 egg weight with the line looped thru it 3 or 4 times....a foot above it a loop knot with a jig or minnow hook....a foot below another jig or minnow hook. A rod with a limber tip. I use 14 ft. BnM Capps and Coleman rods. When spider rigging the fish hit very light...when the tip moves slightly down you have to snatch quick or you will miss the fish. It takes awhile to get used to it....I missed a lot of fish when I first started....you really have to keep a eye on your rods. You also need your rod holders close enough that you dont have to lean forward and stretch to grab your rod quick.

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    That's exactly how I rig when I fish in Louisiana. I usually have a #2 or #4 hook above and a small jig below. I've tried it here with limited success, long lining seems to work way better.
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