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    Default Battleborn lithium battery: Melted trolling motor wires


    I was hoping to get some feed back on what you might think would cause a negative wire (black) to melt, from my wireless Motorguide xi3.

    Back ground.

    This is an 8 month old 100ah Battleborn lithium battery. I use it as primary source of propelling my pelican bass raider by way of trolling motor.

    I have fished about 15 times from this boat, and the xi3 from Motorguide has performed wonderfully.

    I keep the battery connected to the factory cables of less than 5 feet. The Minn Kota Battery Power Center is the only thing between the lithium battery and the trolling motor. It has a 60amp breaker built in.

    All wires and connections are clean and tight. They look factory new.

    Before this happened my average fishing trip was a half mile. I used anchor lock for 6 hours at a time and used little to non of my battery. The most was 22ah after 10 hours of fishing.

    Then I decided to take a 3 mile trip at full speed (1.5 one direction and 1.5 the other with spot lock in between.

    On the way back is when I smelled burning rubber and seen the melted wire.

    I checked the prop for fishing line and there was none. No debris was found after taking off the prop nut.

    The prop freely moves and all connections look good.

    Any idea why this might have happened?

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    No, the battery isn't too much. The motor will draw only what it needs. You could have a battery 10 times as powerful and the motor would still only draw the current needed. Your problem is that your battery wire was way too small for the amount of current that motor is drawing. Too much current trying to go down too narrow a wire.
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    What you say makes sense. Why would motorguide have to small of a gauge wire for their product.?
    The minn kota battery box is 4 gauge wire. And that is what melted.
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    Since it melted at the connection, the "restriction" may have been in the way it was crimped rather than the wire itself. In either case, I'd replace it with the next size wire. Cheap insurance.
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    Thanks Doyle.

    I also seen a huge hole at the breaker that was melted in picture 1.

    I wonder if I had a failed breaker?

    Either way I will replace the breaker and install at factory wires.

    I will also move down to a 50 amp breaker for the 55 thrust motorguide.

    All connections will be bolted and not crimped.
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    I think...For a 12 volt 55 thrust motor a 60 amp circuit breaker should be correct. I'm assuming 12 volt not 24 volt.. For the connections I like to use lugs and solder the wires into them. Then add heat shrink over wire end onto the lug. It could be the connection to ground was loose or corroded? Maybe add a new circuit breaker too... Check your spec sheet for correct size for your trolling motor.
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    You should size your fuse/breaker for the expected full load current. Check with the manufacturer, they will know the what your overload protection needs to be. Then that overload protection will be used to size your wiring. These two aspects of the equation should never be compromised. Fire on a boat is a serious threat and any 12 volt battery has the potential of causing catastrophic damage to your vessel. The other portion of the equation is the length of wires, insulation type, and connection type. I recommend marine grade insulation and mechanical connections using wiring as short as possible. I also recommend upsizing one wire size once you decide your overload protection and length of wire. There are tables you can reference once they are established. My other recommendation would be to treat all connections with a anti-corrosion grease designed for the marine environment and check them regularly for tightness and corrosion. Good luck, you can correct this condition for far less money than another set of those batteries.
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    Cool

    Thanks Traveiling man.

    I looked up minn kota and I also looked up motorguide requirements as you suggested.

    Minn kota has a 60 amp breaker requirement up to 55 thrust and motorguide has a 50 amp breaker requirement up to 55 thrust.

    Go figure
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertFL View Post
    I think...For a 12 volt 55 thrust motor a 60 amp circuit breaker should be correct. I'm assuming 12 volt not 24 volt.. For the connections I like to use lugs and solder the wires into them. Then add heat shrink over wire end onto the lug. It could be the connection to ground was loose or corroded? Maybe add a new circuit breaker too... Check your spec sheet for correct size for your trolling motor.
    If you use a 60A circuit breaker you can use #4 wire if the length of wire is 20' or shorter.

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