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    Well....your not going to get anything done fussing about it here. You should have driven the two hours to the factory with it when these problems first showed up and your dealer would not do anything about them. Just hook the boat up and take it to the factory.

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    Well....your not going to get anything done fussing about it here. You should have driven the two hours to the factory with it when these problems first showed up and your dealer would not do anything about them. Just hook the boat up and take it to the factory.
    A rep said they were too busy to work on the boat during the summer months of high production. Now they won't be bothered until Oct. - a fall month.
    I just might take it up there and leave it and insist they return it.

    As of this morning, the Ranger is now in my backyard needing all the batteries charged, deck cleaned and the boat covered - something the dealer didn't bother to do. The chrome, trailer wheel hubs are shinnie and soon I'll have the motor worked on. Better late than never.

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    Here are a couple of things I would take note of:
    1. Did the dealer purchase the boat from the company with or without a trailer?
    Many boat dealers have additional deals with trailer companies. The parent company might use one trailer but the dealer uses another. In most cases like this, the dealer orders the boat only and puts it on their own brand of trailer.
    If that is the case, it becomes the "dealers" issue regarding the trailer. I doubt that the company sent the tie down straps so that again was something the dealer put on. I've seen it many times when a dealer uses one size too small of trailer or one size too large and then they don't adjust the trailer accordingly. You say it has the wrong size hitch? I'm guessing it has an 1 7/8 inch hitch and you think it should have a 2 inch hitch? That has to do with trailer design. I doubt that the dealer (if he is the one that sold the boat) put a hitch on it. It came that way from where he purchased it. Hitches are done based on weight.

    2. Did the dealer purchase the boat from the manufacturer with or without a motor? Again, if he purchased it without the motor and then installed one after the fact based on the manufacturer they represent and sell, there could be a potential issue with the setup of the motor. IE, it is too far to one side of the boat? If it came direct from the company this way, it would be the company fault.

    3. Was this boat a leftover model from the previous year? This might explain the reason for your speedometer not working. I see that you live in New York. Tempuratures obviously freeze. They could have put the motor on, tested it, sucked water in to the induction line that runs the speedometer, and then had it freeze (happens all the time). Many of us that are from northern climates know and understand this and take the time each winter to remove the speedometer line, blow it out and then reinsert it to ensure there isn't any frozen water that can break the line or the speedometer. I suspect this is the case OR, the line is pinched as it goes in to the motor (or simply came off).

    4. The steering wheel cover- did you notice this when you purchased the boat? If it was pried off as you said, you should have noticed it when purchasing.

    5. The strap Hoops? you say the straps come loose but also the hoops? This would be a faulty hardware issue that the manufacturer should handle. OR, you could put jam nuts on it if you had to.

    6. The gas tank is not secure. Did you notice this when you purchased the boat?

    7. Water overflow- The hose that connects to the water overflow on the side of the boat leaks? I suspect that, like the speedometer, this had water in it and was frozen and cracked OR, the fitting or hose clamp isn't tight. Again, this is a manufacturer issue that would more than likely be fixed by the dealer.

    I have no doubt that there are issues with the boat and that some of them need to be addressed but, some of the things should/could have been noticed before purchasing. Things that should be put on the dealer or the manufacturer (steering wheel cover and gas tank sliding around).

    I have a side console that lists to the drivers side (starboard). Despite the fact that my unsecured gas tank sits to starboard as does my batteries. To combat this, I fill the livewell with water (on the port side). My gas tank in this particular boat also slides around because the factory didn't install any tie downs. To combat this, I purchased my own!

    As for the trolling motor- they break. What can I say. They get bounced around, boards go bad, things happen. If that is covered in your warrenty, then someone should take care of it. If not, it stinks, but you have to foot the bill on that one.
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    Don't forget to go to the dealers Facebook page and let everybody know how they are. BBB, Facebook and any other source of letting it be known that the dealer is a con!

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    Thanks wick for the well thought out replie.
    1. No idea about the trailer, but looked at the hitch on the back of my truck - 2". I'll check the ball after the t.m. is fixed.

    2. Boat came from the company which is supposed to deliver more crafts to him (pontoon boats, row boats). Not sure if he installed the motor, but it looks like it was installed a bit to the right and possibly by him. I checked out the Marathon boat site and I didn't see any boat motors attached in the ads for different Grumman boat models.

    3. Not sure how long the boat was in his backyard along with smaller craft. Could be a freeze-up.

    4.The steering cover defect isn't noticeable unless you look and the last thing you look for when buying something new.

    5.The rear straps come loose because of the boat rocking back & forth on the trailer, so I bought wide ratchet straps that go over the stern of the boat sideways
    and then attach to the frame on both sides.. No more rocking. He gave me the straps, so I doubt he knew how ineffective they were.

    6. Had no idea the gas tank would move that much when I bought the boat.

    7. The water overflow in the livewell goes into the bilge when the boat is on the water but drains out of the hole in the stern when taken out of the water. Not very sophisticated.

    I only have one livewell and that spans the width of the bow. The battery is on the starboard side along with the console. I'm sure the company will secure the gas tank, but if not, I'll do what you did.

    Having read about the latest 2 stroke engine improvements, I'm not sure the 4 stroke was that much of an improvement except for the usual - quieter, no oil to add with every fill up.

    Funny though, the registration says 'used' even though I have a new boat warranty.

    I should have suspected something when I had to get his chickens off the front seat of my truck. His house is his home and office from which he sells wood stoves. Funny though, the registration says 'used' even though I have a new boat warranty. I should have suspected something when I had to get his chickens out of my truck. His house is his home and office from which he sells wood stoves.

    The only hope I have is to sell the boat at a loss and be more careful - especially buying from someone with chickens running around. lol

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    After reading your last list and explanations....
    I seriously doubt the guy you bought the boat from is a actual Grumman boat dealer.
    Your title says used....it appears that he sold you a used boat instead of a new one
    It also appears that it is on a trailer that does not fit the boat....boat should not rock back and fourth on a proper fitting trailer
    The hitch not fitting the ball is because you must have the wrong size ball on your truck.
    All of the problems you have are not Grummans fault....they are the fault of the guy that sold you this boat.
    The saying....buyer beware seems proper here.
    Looks like you are learning a expensive lesson.


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    I think pictures of the rig and the issues would be a good idea at this point. Most issues of this nature fall into two categories. 1) Poor design/quality control and 2) Customer expectation. It's not clear at this point where the specific issues fall.
    I'd rather be fishing.

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    A used boat with problems sold under pretense as a new one and on a trailer not made for the boat....is not a design or quality control issue.

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    Hopefully I can sell it and go from there.

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    That's very true. But I don't think that has been established at this point. The way I'm reading this leaves a lot to the imagination as to what is causing each complaint. For example, a fuel tank that slides around should be considered normal and expected if it's a portable tank. Which would fall into the expectation category. But if it's a built in tank, then it is to be considered a design/quality control issue. Another example would be the boat listing. How wide is the boat? How is the weight distributed in the boat? Is the weight distribution offset a manufacturing / rigging issue or customer equipment issue? Too many unclear issues on the table to make an informed conclusion for me. As for whether the rig is new or not, a new rig will come with certificates of origin for the boat, the trailer and the motor. If the paperwork came in the form of titles, then it is considered a 'used' sale. I'm not trying to detract or lesson the customer's complaints. Just trying to establish and clarify what the specific issues are.
    I'd rather be fishing.

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