Ande line

[chetc]

a few months ago i was at Cabelas shopping for line, i was using MR Crappie hi viz yellow 4lb test, a guy was also shopping and brought it to my attention that this Ande line is great, so i bought a spool of 4lb test. i put it on a few reels and we were out fishing yesterday and i notice it get tons of line twist on both set up we use. curious if all this line twist can be related to the line.


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[DockShootinJack]

Interesting question. The only thing that comes to mind is one line may absorb more twist than the other. A lower memory line would accept the twist and not recoil back.
Of course these are only my guesses

[BobC]

I remember Ande use to be popular with the salt water guys. As mentioned above I would try another line with a softer hand.
Bob

[bfish]

i have used it in 8lb test in the past. No issues. I would bet that it has been sitting on the shelf a long time.

[CrappiePappy]

Line twist usually comes from things other than the line itself. That includes putting the line on the spool wrong, casting small jigs which spin in the air, and other reasons.
The biggest "plus" I've ever heard about Ande line is that it's breaking point is at/near the pound test as labelled.

If it was me, I'd walk off about 1/3 of the spool in the yard .... walk along dragging the line thru the grass for a few minutes.... then reel the line back on between finger/thumb tension. That will get the twists out. Then tie the tag end to something and walk off about two long casts distance ... pull the rod/reel to stretch the line a good bit and hold it there for 5sec's or so, then release, and repeat the procedure a couple more times. Lay the rod down, go cut the tag end loose, go back to the rod and reel the line back in under the moderate finger/thumb pressure. That relaxes the line, and takes more twist out (if any is left). It also improves your casting distance from relaxing the line and taking much of the memory coils out. But, that's a temporary fix & may need to be repeated (at least the stretching part) ... prior to the next outing, if the outfit isn't used for several weeks, or if the twists occur on the next outing.

I've seen my jigs and Road Runners "spin" a lot during casts ... especially overhand wrist snap casts. When I make my casts with a more fluid motion, it seems to result in far less instances of the bait spinning thru the air.

[Alphahawk]

I used 80# test Ande line for 20 years straight on a spinning reel fishing the Red Sea and Persian Gulf. Of course that is not 4# test but I had no issues. Ande line was line of choice for saltwater fishing for a lot of folks. A couple of things can cause what you are experiencing. The line could be bad….as has been stated from excess heat. The reel can also cause that issue…as well as putting line on the reel incorrectly. I have zero issues with line twist…I mean zero. I get an email from someone every week that watches my YouTube channel telling me I should not reel as I’m fighting a fish and it will cause line twist. Well it’s kind of hard to not reel when you are fighting fish when you are using line that is from 1.5# to 2# rating. I use premium lines and premium reels that all have 2 line roller bearings and this helps a lot. But one of the biggest things one can do to prevent or cut down on line twist is to spool line on correctly. The label up label down method will get you in trouble with line twist sooner or later. I first saw this method on a Shaw Grigsby video. How to spool baitcaster and spinning rods with new fishing line - YouTube Now I don’t have a line rack so I just use a shoe to get it done. Here is how I do it. Spooling Line On Spinning Reels. - YouTube This has worked without fail for a long time.

Regards


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[deathb4disco]

... I first saw this method on a Shaw Grigsby video. How to spool baitcaster and spinning rods with new fishing line - YouTube Now I don’t have a line rack so I just use a shoe to get it done. Here is how I do it. Spooling Line On Spinning Reels. - YouTube This has worked without fail for a long time.

I have a line rack similar to Shaw's, so that's how I do it. The shoe is a great idea, though!

[catchNgrease]

The line is the victim of the twist not the criminal. The criminal is the 90degree bend the line makes from the rod to the reel. I can show you the same scenario with 200ft of 1" air hose and aint no fish involved. As AlphaHawk stated the only cure is to cut the air off...drain the line...remove whatever fitting is attached ...stretch out the hose....roll the hose up... Or fishing line.

One thing I would be careful to not do and I am guilty of it is let the line/hook drag behind you while you troll from one spot to the other. That can result in epic line twist

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[BobC]

I used 80# test Ande line for 20 years straight on a spinning reel fishing the Red Sea and Persian Gulf. Of course that is not 4# test but I had no issues. Ande line was line of choice for saltwater fishing for a lot of folks. A couple of things can cause what you are experiencing. The line could be bad….as has been stated from excess heat. The reel can also cause that issue…as well as putting line on the reel incorrectly. I have zero issues with line twist…I mean zero. I get an email from someone every week that watches my YouTube channel telling me I should not reel as I’m fighting a fish and it will cause line twist. Well it’s kind of hard to not reel when you are fighting fish when you are using line that is from 1.5# to 2# rating. I use premium lines and premium reels that all have 2 line roller bearings and this helps a lot. But one of the biggest things one can do to prevent or cut down on line twist is to spool line on correctly. The label up label down method will get you in trouble with line twist sooner or later. I first saw this method on a Shaw Grigsby video. How to spool baitcaster and spinning rods with new fishing line - YouTube Now I don’t have a line rack so I just use a shoe to get it done. Here is how I do it. Spooling Line On Spinning Reels. - YouTube This has worked without fail for a long time.

Regards


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It sure can if you are not careful to PAY ATTENTION TO THE DIRECTION OF THE COILS when they come off the spool. Personally I like to spool standing in back of the reel, so on every reel I own the direction of the coils (and rotor looking from the back) will be COUNTER CLOCKWISE. It goes along with the direction of the rotor as you spin the line on. This has worked for me for a long time but YMMV.
Bob

[Oregon slabman]

Next time you're out on the water troll your line behind the boat with nothing on the end for 5 minutes. That will temporarily solve your problem.