White crappie new york record ??

[snake River]

Sure don't look like a White Crappie to me. Kinda hard to tell from the picture, but I'm counting 5 dorsal spines (possibly 6 ) which would, in fact, be a White Crappie.

A lady here in KY thought she'd caught a World Record Black Crappie, until DNA analysis deemed it to be a hybrid (white/black crappie offspring) ... rendering it a State Record Crappie (KY doesn't delineate between the two), but not a World Record.



My first thought when seeing this picture was ... White Crappie ... due to the pattern of vertical black blotches to the right of her left hand. Then I counted the dorsal spines at 7 spines and realized why it was thought to be a Black Crappie.

I agree with you it looks black to me.

[Spoonminnow]

More hybrid than either black or white.

[ClearCreek]

More hybrid than either black or white.

Please explain your statement in a little more detail.

ClearCreek

[CTPanfisher]

I went up to the Catskills about 2 weeks ago. They're so incredibly beautiful, with no signs of human activity at all other than the trail markers and the path itself. As to address the fishing aspect of this, even the NYC reservoirs in Westchester County have nice fish, beautiful scenery, and are popular with fisherpeople, and they aren't far from the city.

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[Spoonminnow]

Please explain your statement in a little more detail.

ClearCreek

It's difficult to make out the markings that make it either a black or white including the number of dorsal spines. I don't trust NYC DEC to make that determination and for all I know it's (sarcastically) a hybrid. With no way to confirm where the fish was caught, there's no way to prove it came from that particular private N.Y.S. water or out-of-state.

Call me very skeptical.

[Ketchn]

and if that ain't enough how about the for sure hybrid that bass guy ketched in Cali ....
no way was it pure one or the other .....

[BobC]

One other little known or forgotten fact is NY shares a border with the Upper Delaware River. With cold water releases from the dams the UD has some of the finest trout (maybe blue ribbon) and smallmouth fishing in the US, and you are only about 45 miles or so from NYC! Hiding in plain sight! I have always wanted to try the PA side, but access is private for the most part and you need to float it. Sorry to get off topic, but wanted to say something.
Bob

[Spoonminnow]

Clarification:
there's no way to prove it came from that particular private N.Y.S. water or out-of-state.

Meaning, the fish and others like it may have been imported from another state and stocked. If so, would it still qualify as a state record fish? It would be easy to blow away any size record for any species.

This report of a U.S. record crappie mentions hybrid crappie:

A 5-Pound, 7-Ounce, 19.25-inch-long black crappie was weighed by a Tennessee wildlife officer on certified scales, and witnesses to the catch and the weighing were on hand. The fish also went through DNA testing by the state to make sure it was a black crappie, not a white crappie or hybrid. The fish is the current IGFA all-tackle record for black crappie, as well as the Tennessee state record. A massive crappie (4-pounds, 4-ounces) previously from the same pond. (I guess the gene pool was in the pool.)

But even then, regardless of where the crappie originated from (native to where) (i.e. a shocked water from another state), should it still count as a state record fish that was caught using bait ?

[GoTennTitans]

I figured any true crappie fisherman would know the vertical stripes & pointy nose means "white" and the missing vertical stripes & more snub nose means "black."
Here's yours truly with a nice black on the left & white on the right.

But you all already know which is which. It's them New York Yankees who are having trouble.....

Seriously, it is shaped like a big white, but looks like a big black. It's a nice one, either way. Bet it gave her quite a tug.

[CrappiePappy]

I figured any true crappie fisherman would know the vertical stripes & pointy nose means "white" and the missing vertical stripes & more snub nose means "black."
Here's yours truly with a nice black on the left & white on the right.

But you all already know which is which. It's them New York Yankees who are having trouble.....

Seriously, it is shaped like a big white, but looks like a big black. It's a nice one, either way. Bet it gave her quite a tug.

Uhhh GTT .... "her" fish is a KY State Record fish --- "his" NY fish is the one in question in this thread.