White crappie new york record ??

[Ketchn]

I aint trying to pick on anyone ,but I have seen this now for a good bit and the "people " that are the "experts" say that there big ole whopper black crappie the fella caught in new york is a white crappie ?
is it just me or are those there "experts" totally lost on what species of crappie it is ?

[Alphahawk]

I aint trying to pick on anyone ,but I have seen this now for a good bit and the "people " that are the "experts" say that there big ole whopper black crappie the fella caught in new york is a white crappie ?
is it just me or are those there "experts" totally lost on what species of crappie it is ?

I do not know how New York certifies a record. Here in TN it is all done by DNA...I can only assume it is done the same way in New York. So you either believe the fisheries biologist or you don't....and they have certified it. We had a little controversy here in TN a while back over a Spotted bass record. The guy that caught it just flat out said he had the record. But DNA showed the Spotted bass was an Alabama Spotted bass and not the KY Spotted bass we have native here in TN. So TN now has a KY Spotted bass category and an Alabama Spotted bass category...which by the way the Alabama bass is not supposed to be here. Fisherman have put them in a great KY bass lake here and it is a detriment to the native population of KY bass. As to the crappie....as I looked at the pics I also thought it was not a white crappie....but I'm no biologist.

Regards

[deathb4disco]

For those of you keeping score at home:

CDC members from New York: 3

Threads discussing the New York record on the New York forum: 0

Threads discussing the New York record on the Main forum: 3

[CTPanfisher]

For those of you keeping score at home:

CDC members from New York: 3

Threads discussing the New York record on the New York forum: 0

Threads discussing the New York record on the Main forum: 3

And as far as I can tell, all of those threads were created by people who aren't from New York.

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[DrNip]

I was thinking maybe a hybrid after seeing the pic of it in the plastic bin. I’m definitely not seeing it being a white crappie.

[GreenEYESfromOHIO]

For those of you keeping score at home:

CDC members from New York: 3

Threads discussing the New York record on the New York forum: 0

Threads discussing the New York record on the Main forum: 3

Wow, didn’t know that……I knew some states in the forum were slow but not like that lol. Let’s be honest though, it’s NY, people live their for the “big city” not the outdoors LOL.

[BobC]

I’m not and never have been from NY, but once you get into the western and upper parts of the state there is some really very, very pretty country. A whole different state from what you would think of. All that said, I would have thought there would be a lot more CC members from that state. Interesting.
Bob

[Spoonminnow]

"But DNA showed the Spotted bass was an Alabama Spotted bass and not the KY Spotted bass we have native here in TN. "


DNA - never thought of that sure fire way of confirming species origin. Sure, a fish from the south with their longer growing season could have been transported north, but without a DNA test was the fish from NY parents or even born in NY? Do most of the crappie in the water it was caught have similar DNA? Have many crappie have been caught in that water are over 14" - white or black crappie? Being a private lake I suspect it should have quite a few, but except for reasons of pollution, our useless NYSDEC rarely checks any water for fish quality or quantity and are the last agency I would trust for record keeping.

[CrappiePappy]

Sure don't look like a White Crappie to me. Kinda hard to tell from the picture, but I'm counting 5 dorsal spines (possibly 6 ) which would, in fact, be a White Crappie.

A lady here in KY thought she'd caught a World Record Black Crappie, until DNA analysis deemed it to be a hybrid (white/black crappie offspring) ... rendering it a State Record Crappie (KY doesn't delineate between the two), but not a World Record.



My first thought when seeing this picture was ... White Crappie ... due to the pattern of vertical black blotches to the right of her left hand. Then I counted the dorsal spines at 7 spines and realized why it was thought to be a Black Crappie.

[Spoonminnow]

Let’s be honest though, it’s NY, people live their for the “big city” not the outdoors LOL.

All states have population densities in major cities. NYC is to the southern end and no way an example of the rest of the state. Agriculture covers thousands of square miles as do mountains and forests. Within 45 minutes there are over two dozen excellent waters to fish and beyond that over 100. Our growing season may be shorter than southern states (though I'm sure equal to Ohio), but quality and quantity can be caught in most waters.

I hate the city (NYC) and the rat race and would never live or work close to it or any large city for that matter. Country air, peace & quiet. YES!