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    Yeah, the "flutter" would put off some flash & even a small amount of pressure wave vibration ... but, the few videos I've seen of him vertical jigging a RR, he was doing it in murky/muddy water conditions. He also, of course, used RR's because they're one of his sponsors ... so, he didn't compare the RR's against a regular hair/feather & bladeless jig to see (show) that the RR's blade made a difference. Not that I would have expected him to, or that even if he did it would have shown the RR vs a regular jig as a tie or the RR losing out. (one does not keep paying sponsors very long when they show them to be equal or inferior to other commercially made products)

    And I'm a big fan of Road Runners, so don't get me wrong. They've put a LOT of fish in my boat over the decades of me using them.
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    speed can make or break you on crappie . and i used to vertical in timber back when all the time with a road runner . slow falling a road runner can be just flat deadly in the summer on timber .
    if you cast and want to reel you need to learn to hold your rod tip up high . a low rod tip will make it difficult to attain the slower speeds crappie typically prefer. you will miss a few fish though as it is tough to get a solid hook set this way .
    there are exceptions to every rule on crappie though and in the spring you can burn a bait and they will likely still hit it . there is a fine art to getting the speed and presentation right when casting for crappie . AND if you get bit .....replicate what you did when the strike occurred exactly if possible .
    more often than not you need to employ a very slim float when casting from the bank for crappie . it will allow you the pauses and depth to be correct along with the slower speed of the presentation that crappie prefer most of the time .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketchn View Post
    speed can make or break you on crappie . and i used to vertical in timber back when all the time with a road runner . slow falling a road runner can be just flat deadly in the summer on timber .
    if you cast and want to reel you need to learn to hold your rod tip up high . a low rod tip will make it difficult to attain the slower speeds crappie typically prefer. you will miss a few fish though as it is tough to get a solid hook set this way .
    there are exceptions to every rule on crappie though and in the spring you can burn a bait and they will likely still hit it . there is a fine art to getting the speed and presentation right when casting for crappie . AND if you get bit .....replicate what you did when the strike occurred exactly if possible .
    more often than not you need to employ a very slim float when casting from the bank for crappie . it will allow you the pauses and depth to be correct along with the slower speed of the presentation that crappie prefer most of the time .
    Thank you! The tip thing is really good to know, I am used to using lures for saltwater where uu if need to tip low so thank you so much!


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    This is where Livescope taught me a lesson. If your goin to target crappie say 14-16’ depth, you can watch the jig (1/8oz w BG Stroll R’s) sink down. By casting 20-25’ out, rate of fall slows deeper it gets. I use mono line. When you start turning reel if you dont go extra slow you bait will start rising. It will amaze you how slow you hav to reel to keep bait in strike zone depth. LV can be a valuable teacher!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRW View Post
    This is where Livescope taught me a lesson. If your goin to target crappie say 14-16’ depth, you can watch the jig (1/8oz w BG Stroll R’s) sink down. By casting 20-25’ out, rate of fall slows deeper it gets. I use mono line. When you start turning reel if you dont go extra slow you bait will start rising. It will amaze you how slow you hav to reel to keep bait in strike zone depth. LV can be a valuable teacher!!
    Great tip, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRW View Post
    This is where Livescope taught me a lesson. If your goin to target crappie say 14-16’ depth, you can watch the jig (1/8oz w BG Stroll R’s) sink down. By casting 20-25’ out, rate of fall slows deeper it gets. I use mono line. When you start turning reel if you dont go extra slow you bait will start rising. It will amaze you how slow you hav to reel to keep bait in strike zone depth. LV can be a valuable teacher!!

    This is exactly why I fish a sinking polyester line ....low ratio reels that take in about 22 inches per handle turn...and reel extremely slow. Using 1/2 gram and 1 gram jig heads fishing 22 feet deep this setup is killer....making it relatively easy to keep those light jigs down deep using cast and retrieve.


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    One thing to consider is rod action and length - especially the last 1/4 of the rod's length. Too firm as in a medium action rod and imparted lure action using the rod tip could be a problem with what you feel at the end of the line as well as strike sensitivity using lighter and smaller lures. Lure speed which is generally on the slow side is matched to allow the best action-per-lure design (shape/size).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRW View Post
    This is where Livescope taught me a lesson. If your goin to target crappie say 14-16’ depth, you can watch the jig (1/8oz w BG Stroll R’s) sink down. By casting 20-25’ out, rate of fall slows deeper it gets. I use mono line. When you start turning reel if you dont go extra slow you bait will start rising. It will amaze you how slow you hav to reel to keep bait in strike zone depth. LV can be a valuable teacher!!
    What is livescipe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonminnow View Post
    One thing to consider is rod action and length - especially the last 1/4 of the rod's length. Too firm as in a medium action rod and imparted lure action using the rod tip could be a problem with what you feel at the end of the line as well as strike sensitivity using lighter and smaller lures. Lure speed which is generally on the slow side is matched to allow the best action-per-lure design (shape/size).
    Got it. I have an ultra light, fast action 6’ rod with an exposed graphite to feel bites I love it’s sensitivity and has a good hooks with. Thanks for the Advice


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