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    Let me begin by saying up front that I have actually been diagnosed as truly having ADD, with a sprinkling of OCD. That means I have a tendency to overdue, or go into too much depth, whatever I attempt. I just have difficulty remembering what it is that I'm attempting. I also don't post much here because there's not much I can add, that someone with more knowledge on the subject, hasn't said better. Thus my "guppy" status - well that and the fact I haven't been a member long.

    Here goes... I have an 18' Xpress Pro Fish Crappie, even though I'm not a pro at fishing crappie. It's just that I'm retired, love fishing, live 2 miles from Lake Palestine in Texas, and figure there's no better way to spend my time. The seats that came with my boat, while comfy enough to sit in, are bulky, get in the way underway, and are hot to sit in, during the summer months. I researched aftermarket seats and determined Millennium was the way to go. I ordered the B-100 seats from Grizzly. As I had a question or two to ask, I called, asked the questions, and ended up placing the order over the phone. I spoke with a young(?) lady in phone sales named Sarah. When I looked at my bank charges, I discovered I was charged $15 per seat less than what they are listed for on the web site. I can't tell you why the discrepancy in price, but I choose to believe it's because Sarah found me really sexy and super intelligent, and fell in love with me during our short convo.

    I'd read here that most of the time, when the seats are installed, they are too high and put too much pressure on the underneath side of the thigh, at the knee. This was certainly my experience, so I tried everything mentioned in this forum to remedy the situation. I first tried unbolting from the seat the brace structure that the 4 hole Attwood 1002 3/4" pin seat mount bolts to and turning it around so that the seat would tilt in a more forward manner. Incidentally, when you do this, at least in my case, the bottom side seat rails that it's attached to, pop inward, making the reinsertion of this brace structure difficult, but not impossible. I took a large Crescent wrench and bent the aluminum L-shaped aluminum outward, opening it up enough that the bracket could be pressed back between the side rails. Pressed isn't really accurate as I had to hit it with my fist to pound it down far enough that the bolt holes would line up. You may find, as I did, that after inserting the bolts back into these holes as far as they'll go, you'll have to use your ratchet to actually screw the bolts through the inside holes. After everything was bolted back together, it resulted in me leaning so far forward I felt like the seat was trying to dump me onto the deck. So I ended up turning it back around to the 'dangle my feet above the deck' position and thought more about the situation. I thought about using washers, stacked onto the bolts on the rear of the mount, to tilt it just a little bit forward, but decided that would only exacerbate the situation, so I didn't. Furthermore, removing the spring, while doable, didn't seem like something I wanted to do. So...

    After trying all the above and working up a good sweat, even in my air conditioned work area, I decided to go online to Amazon and look for a shorter seat posts. The Swivl-Ez posts that came with my boat were 13". I found some 11" posts at Amazon for a hair less than $40 for the pair and had them sent to me. I was under the impression that they wouldn't be Swivl-Ez brand, as the Swivl-Ez label wasn't showing in the picture and they were so much less expensive than what I'd found elsewhere. I was wrong. They arrived and are actually Swivl-Ez posts. I screwed them into their deck mounts, placed the seats onto them and sat down. Perfect!!! My feet are flat on the deck without adding too much pressure to the back of my legs. BE AWARE! When you sit down and the seat actually pops down into these new posts, they're there to stay. I can't separate the seats from those posts now. The posts seem to have become a permanent part of the seat now. I'll have to unscrew the posts with the seats still mounted, removing both at the same time. This isn't a problem for me, as I can't think of a situation where I'd need to leave the posts in position, without the seat mounted to them. That's dangerous. I'll simply buy two more seat mounts for the original seats, should I decide to use them again. These Millennium seats are so comfortable, I doubt I'll be using the OEM seats again.

    Forgive the length of this post, but I warned the reader in advance. If I've left something out, broken the rules in any way, or have been unclear about what I've said, I apologize. If you find your new Millennium seats to high for you, do yourself a favor and just order shorter posts. - Clint
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    Thanks for the info. If I ever buy those seats I'll factor in new seat posts to make 'em work.
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    Very good explanation CJ. I also use a Millennium seat up front. I have one for my wife but she doesn't like it so now I have a spare. I was lucky enough that mine fit at the right height for me.
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    My seats are awesome and fit into my original Tracker seat posts very tight. I have to give them one firm yank upward and they come out. Maybe give that a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeCrappie View Post
    My seats are awesome and fit into my original Tracker seat posts very tight. I have to give them one firm yank upward and they come out. Maybe give that a try.
    That worked for the original OEM seats, but not with the new posts, even though I used the seat bases that I took off my old seats. More than a few of the reviews on Amazon for these posts, stated the same problem. One guy worked for over an hour trying to get his apart, to no avail. I used EWG gun grease on the 3/4" stems, before putting them into the bases and sitting on them and still can't separate them. Maybe after using them for a bit, the holes will loosen up enough to pop them off. We'll see. Thanks for the suggestion though. - Clint

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw "gene" View Post
    Very good explanation CJ. I also use a Millennium seat up front. I have one for my wife but she doesn't like it so now I have a spare. I was lucky enough that mine fit at the right height for me.
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    Glad you didn't have to adjust for them. I failed to mention that I'm 69" in altitude. The 13" posts for anyone within that height range, will be too high and I recommend the 11" posts. Grizzly also sells those 11" posts but because the ones pictured aren't threaded and though it says they're also available in threaded, I saw no way to actually specify the threaded option, so I didn't buy from them. Hated that, because Grizzly really treated me right on price and their service is second to none.
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    You can cut those post off to the length you want. Drive the bushing out of the short piece and drive it back into the piece you want to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormcloud View Post
    You can cut those post off to the length you want. Drive the bushing out of the short piece and drive it back into the piece you want to use.
    I thought about trying that but wasn't sure either that it was possible or that shorter posts were even the answer. I decided to pay the 40 bucks and take a chance. As it stands now, I have the longer posts for my original seats and the shorter posts for my new Millenniums. My wife would probably prefer the cushy feel of the original seats, but she may never go with me again. She prefers shorter sight seeing excursions on the lake, as opposed to my potentially day long fishing trips. I really do appreciate you letting me know cutting the posts is a workable option for the future though.
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    3-4 hours is all i can handle sitting atop any pole. My new boat come with millennium seats. Haven't tried them out yet, except front yard fishing. Seems to be a backlog on certain troll motors and tiller handles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane Pole View Post
    3-4 hours is all i can handle sitting atop any pole. My new boat come with millennium seats. Haven't tried them out yet, except front yard fishing. Seems to be a backlog on certain troll motors and tiller handles.
    I hear ya. I got into trouble one day a couple of months ago. The temp hit 94 at 11:00am and I was on the lake from 10-5 o'clock. I drank plenty and ate a sandwich on the lake and that didn't prevent what happened. I got back to the boat ramp, loaded my boat and pulled over to the cleaning table. About the 6th fish into it, the world started getting a little dim and I felt like I was about to drop. I got into my truck, cranked the a/c up and sat there for about 5 minutes to cool off a little and recover. As soon as I felt I could, I got back out and finished cleaning what I'd kept. I'm not a youngster anymore and I keep forgetting that little tidbit. The temps have cooled now, into the upper 70s to lower 80s and I'm able to stay out as long as I want. I catch and release for the most part, taking home enough for a few meals and letting the others live to fight another day.

    I moved to this area 18 months ago and am still learning the lake. I went out with a guide about 6 months ago who's in his mid 30s and has lived on and been fishing Lake Palestine since he was a small boy. His knowledge of the lake is top notch and he nearly always gets his clients their limit in Crappie. The day we fished together, we went out on my boat and when we got back to the ramp, he loaded over 500 brush piles and way points for several area lakes onto my Humminbird. Well over 200 of those are on Lake Palestine, so I've been trying to fish as many of those as possible on my days out. It's hard for me to stop fishing, once I get started. Hey, ain't a darn thing wrong with yard fishing. I do it fairly regularly.
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