Have you thought about clipping the bail leaving only about 3/4" of the bail next to the line slot(or whatever that thing is called). Then using it it for a dock shooter.
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I have several of the Sienna's in the 500 and 1000 size and I really like them for the $30 I paid.
I also have several Pflueger President's and for the $40-$50 I spent and I do like them better. I was surprised that B&M rods weren't mentioned. I use several of those and also several of the Ugly Sticks. Paid $50 for some and and as little as $15 for some of the ugly sticks(I look for sales). Bump your budget a little and you'll get more value for your money.
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From shimano, the Sedona FI has 3+1 bearings as does the Sienna FG. In size 500, the Sedona has a 7 pound drag and the Sienna only 4 pound drag, but I'm using a 500 series with 4 pound line, so that doesn't really matter to me. They also both weigh the same in the 500 series, same line retrieved per turn, same gear ratio.
Please don't misunderstand my intention here. I'm not like a kid with fingers in both ears saying "I can't hear you". Trust me, I've had cheap baitcasters and won't waste my time with them. I had a mitchell ultralight combo and the rod was bad and the reel was gritty. I'm not lost on the idea that the Siennas may feel great out of the box, but don't age well. Then again, if I grew up in an area that only had Chevettes (yes, I'm old), then I wouldn't know that Corvettes existed.
As far as rods go, what would you consider a good improvement over the Celilo? I'm not ready to drop St. Croix money on rods for panfish . I typically am a cast/retrieve guy with lures, if that matters. I mean, no one goes trolling with $500 rods and $300 reels for crappie, right?
The Celilo comes in 8'6". It's a whippy little rod though, so if you're looking for something that can throw 1/8 ounce, my 6'6" does fine. The CE-S-862ULa is rated for 1/16 to 3/16 ounce. 8'6" on a whippy rod may cause some frustration though. 4 pound line feeds much better than 6 pound on these rods.
I don't troll.....but I do cast and retrieve for bluegill and crappie with JDM rods and reels....my setups run from 500 dollars to 800 dollars. I highly suggest you take a look at the Trout Magnet Trout Slayer rods and or the Leland's B'n'M TCB rod. You will not find a more sensitive rod for the money. The rods are virtually identical.....the B'n'M has a higher price point. I have fished them both and reviewed both. If sensitivity matters to you...and if you are looking at budget rods.....these are outstanding at the price point.
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As Walt & I do a lot of "Side Pulling" up here in MA. I have one of "The Difference" rods, as well as other B n' M rods. This rod, in my opinion, doesn't particularly excel at side pulling for me. I much prefer the 9' SHSS as this rod has accounted for hundreds of crappie for me over the years. The Difference, as with my 1/2 doz. other crappie rigs, is equipped with that #20 President reel I referred to previously.
I use nothing but 2# test Fireline Crystal on all these reels for a mainline, along with a 4' fluorocarbon leader. Set up in this fashion they have never let me down. BUT.....I am fishing deep, open water basins. NOT brush / hazard filled shallows. Any rig you choose must be set up for the particular purpose for which you intend. It's all about confidence.
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