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Thread: Livewell Oxygenators, live livewell additives, salt is a deadly combo

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    Default Livewell Oxygenators, live livewell additives, salt is a deadly combo


    How to kill your live bait quick – Trivial Bait shop talk

    They say that all bait saver type livewell supplements and chemicals contain electrolytes. Electrolytes are good for live bait and fish in livewells and bait tanks and it is not cheap either.

    Some fishermen are aware that marine and salt water fish live in water chock-full of electrolytes. Those fishermen know they do not need to buy or add more salt (electrolytes) when their livewell is full of salty environmental water. That salt water has plenty electrolytes already dissolved in it.


    So how do you test any livewell supplement to absolutely know that this brand bait or fishsaver livewell supplement really contains salt?


    The ole fisherman’s TasteTest is easy, quick, simple and will absolutely confirm If your livewell bait/fishsaver product contains any salt!

    Taste that G-Juice Formula, Rejuvenade, Minnow Saver, Better Bait, etc, for salt content before you switch on your Oxygenator.

    If you can taste salt in the chemical: DO NOT USE THIS SALTY BAIT SAVER SUPPLEMENT FOR YOUR LIVE BAIT OR LIVE FISH WITH YOUR LIVEWELL ELECTROLYSE OXYGENATOR.


    Don’t kill your live bait or fish in the livewell with chlorine. If you are planning to use livewell Oxygenators, know for sure if that livewell chemical contains any salt.


    When using Oxygenators, what is the difference between any of these bait/fish saver concoctions, all these livewell products contain electrolytes (salt) for water-electrolyte balance,

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    So If you taste salt don't use it? I'm missing something here. You said the salt has electrolytes, and fish need electrolytes to some degree...???I've also heard add hydrogen peroxide to your bait tank. It's H2OO
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    James you may be missing something, a clear understanding of osmoregulation, fresh water fish, and the electrolyte (salt, NaCl) salt could help you gain a better understanding of all this trivia.
    Google:
    osmoregulation, sodium/waterregulation in freshwater fish

    Then to see the connection of electrolysis and salty water you could Google: electrolysis of water containing salt and see what happens when oxygenators electrolyze water containing electrolytes (salt).

    Tasting the livewell supplement is the cheapest, quickest way to tell if that supplement contains salt. Salt is the primary ingredient in all these expensive livewell fish saver products and plain old salt is the electrolyte which is cheap,cheap, cheap comparatively. Looks like you can use the oxygenator or use thelivewell supplement containing salt (electrolytes), but not both together ifthe science of electrolysis is true and correct.


    It just seems logical not to add salt (electrolytes) to livewell water and then electrolyze that salty water when the Oxygenator will make chlorine when you turn it on.They say chlorine will poison fish in livewells, I believe that’s correct. I guess if you turn the Oxygenator on and you smell chlorine in the livewell, it’sway too late.


    Regarding your comments about the use of Hydrogen Peroxide in livewells and bait tanks… I have heard and read this s great too. H2O2 is more effective producing oxygen in livewellwater containing some protein than 50 Oxygenators running wide open in the same live well that has no fish in it. 1 bottle of H2O2 cost a couple bucks at any pharmacy or Aquaculture Supply store and 50 livewell Oxygenators cost $850; doesn’t take a mental giant to do the calculation on this deal to see the light and it does sound convincing with all the fishermen testimonials on the net.


    I did a quick search about fish exposed to Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) in livewells and this publication jumps out. You might want to look at this professional opinion and warnings from the fishery experts at B.A.S.S.
    Keeping Bass Alive, AGuidebook for Anglers and Tournament Organizers http://assets.espn.go.com/winnercomm/outdoors/bassmaster/pdf/Keeping_Bass_Alive.pdf

    By: GeneGilliland [Gilliland is currently the B.A.S.S. National Conservation Director effective January 1, 2014.]
    By: HalSchramm, US Geological Survey, Mississippi Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Center, Mississippi State University,: he teaches fishery sciences at the University and has published considerable fishery research.

    CHEMICALS ---
    pg 21

    Another chemical that has sometimes been used to treat livewell or holding tank water is Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2). Hydrogen Peroxide breaks down into oxygen andwater in the presence of organic matter. However, this chemical can injure fish and should not be used. Most people have used this colorless, odorless, tasteless liquid to disinfect a cut or scratch. You can see it fizzing and bubbling on the skin as it oxidizes. Now imagine what it does in a livewellfull of bass. The bass’ mucus coating protects its skin from the oxidation reaction, but there is no such protective coating on the delicate gill filaments. Unfortunately, anglers that use Hydrogen Peroxide think that is a little is good, a little more should be better. Wrong! Damage to gill filaments, suffocation, and death may result. DO NOT USE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE IN THE LIVEWELL (in BIG RED FONT)

    But keep in mind, it’s only a fish that’s 1 click below amphibians (frogs) and 2 clicks below the cold blooded reptiles (gators, lizards and snakes).


    I have used H2O2 as a disinfectant for cuts and scratches, but I have never used it in livewells so I have no firsthand experience with that.

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