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    Whenever I have someone else in the boat with me and we try to pull cranks, to avoid tangles we do 2 rods off the back of the boat, and 2 rods off the front of the boat on the opposite side. The back of the boat ALWAYS out fishes the front even tho we are using the same baits and the same amount of line out. What’s the deal with that? Last weekend for example my buddy was in the back and he caught 15 fish out of the same cove to my 2 fish...
    both using one silver and black crank and one blue/green/yellow crank.
    and this has happened on my last 3 attempts at using the front and back of the boat at the same time.
    Am I doing something wrong with the cranks in the front of the boat? The ones on the back end seem to be doing just fine.


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    Don't think your doing anything wrong....some days are just like that. Sometimes the left side will catch more than the right side and vice versa. Same with front and back.
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    Let's say that you have 75' out on the front and back cranks. Also, let's say your boat is 18'. So on every pass the stern deployed cranks are +/- 75'behind the boat, and the bow deployed ones are +/- 57' behind the boat. I believe that 18 difference is the reason the guy in the stern is out fishing you. I have noticed the same in my tiller Lund. In my opinion that extra 18' has allowed whatever disturbance the boat causes to subside. Thereby the fish would theoretically be more willing to bite. Send out extra line on the bow rods and see if I have any idea what I am talking about. My wife tells me that I have been living in assisted care for years and most of the time have no idea what I am saying. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMA65 View Post
    Let's say that you have 75' out on the front and back cranks. Also, let's say your boat is 18'. So on every pass the stern deployed cranks are +/- 75'behind the boat, and the bow deployed ones are +/- 57' behind the boat. I believe that 18 difference is the reason the guy in the stern is out fishing you. I have noticed the same in my tiller Lund. In my opinion that extra 18' has allowed whatever disturbance the boat causes to subside. Thereby the fish would theoretically be more willing to bite. Send out extra line on the bow rods and see if I have any idea what I am talking about. My wife tells me that I have been living in assisted care for years and most of the time have no idea what I am saying. ;-)
    Lol that makes sense! I will try that next time out
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMA65 View Post
    Let's say that you have 75' out on the front and back cranks. Also, let's say your boat is 18'. So on every pass the stern deployed cranks are +/- 75'behind the boat, and the bow deployed ones are +/- 57' behind the boat. I believe that 18 difference is the reason the guy in the stern is out fishing you. I have noticed the same in my tiller Lund. In my opinion that extra 18' has allowed whatever disturbance the boat causes to subside. Thereby the fish would theoretically be more willing to bite. Send out extra line on the bow rods and see if I have any idea what I am talking about. My wife tells me that I have been living in assisted care for years and most of the time have no idea what I am saying. ;-)
    If you let out more line on the front rods....crank bait will be running deeper than the back ones.
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    I’d use a longer rod out the front/side So you can get farther away from the boat! Stay with the same amount of line to keep the same depth ! or add weight and push out the front !

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    Next time you go out set up just like you have been, then by eyeball look at distance from rod tip to where line enters water. Betting your front rod tips are higher and longer distance to water than your back rods. That will make a difference in your running depth. If front is say 15 ft and back is 5 ft add 10 ft on front rods and then they should be at same depth in water.
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    I’m going to be the oddball, as usual. Rod holders amidships, longer rod in the front holder at 90*. Second one a little more angle towards the back. With the rods out the side you will get them going faster on one side and slower on the other when you turn. This will help establish if you need a speed change. Some days I zig zagged just to keep it different, and it worked.

    I don’t buy into the boat disturbance idea for this reason. I got tired of long drawn out turns and took a 3 way swivel and put a split ring and duo lock snap on one leg. The others went to the main line and a 5’ leader. I hung weight up to an ounce on the snap and turned off the anti reverse switch and back reeled 3 or 4 turns from the weight being at the surface. This established the depth, pretty much, that the baits would be running. I could turn around on a dime, and didn’t see a significant loss in the catch ratio. And the fish were almost right under the boat. Works with jigs too. There were times that the rods closest to the boat were busier than the longer ones away from the boat. If nothing else, it’s something else to try and keep in your bag of tricks.
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    When flatlining cranks I try to keep my pole tips as close to the water as possible. I pull off the sides and try to keep about 4- 5 foot of line out from the tip of my rods to where the line enters the water. Like others have said the running depth is determined by how many feet of line out once the line enters the water. There are other variables also, rod angles effects this, the higher the rod tip the shallower a crank will run as opposed to a more flat / closer to the water presentation approach. I agree with the above poster as well. Try longer poles on the front of the boat, sounds like you stirring them up for the man in the back to catch em' Am I doing it wrong?

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    Could be lots of reasons the back is out the fishing front. And here's one more to ponder, I've been useing panoptics for two years with the PS22 transducer on my trolling motor, the amount of fish that dive deep and move left and right as the boat approaches is mind boggling.Most of are lakes are pretty clear though,you can see down 10-15 feet.
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