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    Not true I know one guy in Arkansas who catches fish daily to keep a few but gives away way more than he keeps. The biologist have no idea what the ratio of fish being taken out of lakes is really imo. I think in the future we will see the repercussions. Just like the bass fishing guys have in the past. Keep what you want to eat, give a few away but fish because you like to fish and not to look good to other folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FurFlyin View Post
    I understand and agree with what you're saying. It concerns me as well. Having said that, I have a Livescope on order. I hope it helps me catch a limit every day, BUT I won't keep more than a mess every once and a while like I've always done. I hope others do the same, but I know some of them won't.
    you going to see them little fishes swimming around your boat and they won't bite. You gonna be mad!
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    The problem/solution is people. Some disregard the rules and keep all they can regardless of how they get them. Don't believe too many will spend big bucks to keep limits every trip, and if they do they'll find out just because you see them means you can catch them.

    Enjoy fishing. Keep what YOU can eat and release the rest!.

    Works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ET Fish View Post
    Everyone wants to improve their catch rate, including me. We all want the latest and greatest equipment, specifically electronics. Iím no exception. While I could afford it, can I justify spending that much? Iím frugal, bordering on cheap. Iíve not mastered the electronics that I already have. I often have no idea what I am seeing on the screen. Then, when Iím pretty sure that I know what Iím seeing, Iím not sure where what Iím seeing actually is. Is it on the left of the boat? Right? Directly under? Truthfully, I have probably just made a justifiable case for electronics, such as Livescope!
    Social Media, IMO, drives the need to have tables, coolers, and tailgates full of crappie. After all, who wants to read and see pictures of a day when I am skunked? I am a member of a Crappie FB Group, and I can promise you it is much different than this site. Arguing, cursing, and full of keyboard pros. It makes me very thankful and appreciative of all that is, and has been done, to make crappie.com what it is. Much like a campfire where we share our stories!
    Iíve started rambling, so Iíll wrap up. Will these latest electronics be permitted in major tournaments? Will peer pressure continue to drive sales? Whatís in the future? Use whatever tools you can comfortably afford that increases your enjoyment of this sport. Follow all game laws. Enjoy the pursuit!
    You know, a few true fishing reports would probably help our overfished lakes. My latest trip would be a good example. Got on the water about 2:30, the water was stained and the surface temp was 46. I went to a blowdown that is usually productive, and didnít get a bite. Decided to try some main channel docks. The first dock produced two 9Ē fish. The next 10 docks produced 0. I decided to long line an area where I marked fish. Not one bite. Back to the brush to take advantage of the ďdusk bite.Ē Nothing. Loaded the boat and went home. It was a beautiful day!
    All of the above incidents are absolutely true. Not a very sexy report, and it makes a guy feel kind of inferior. However, if you fish enough, days like this will happen.
    Live each day as if itís your last. I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me.
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    Other states might be different but here in Texas the biggest problem we have is folks not taking enough fish out of the lakes to the point the crappie become stunted.
    LOP and Fork both you have to keep every Crappie catch all winter long an have been that way for a log time.

    They are now two of the best lakes in the state
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    Buff, you bring up an interesting point/observation: Things are very regional.

    Take Texas as an example. It seems that a vast majority of the fisherman (or at least the publicized aspect of it) are after the trophey Bass that live in Texas. We all know that other fish obviously are not forgotten, but people tend to only focus their attentions on that predominant species (at least in terms of publicity).

    It would be no different than Michigan and our amazing Walleye fishery or Salmon fishing. People are less likely to pose with pictures of crappies than a large Salmon. Another thing we have found is that, just as you said, people are often overlooking a lot of lakes for the more public bodies of water. Almost as if the are stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime! In many cases, the inland lakes that used to be flooded with people and had issues are now teaming with fish just waiting to be caught!

    Of course, a devious person could make a couple simple "Rockstar" posts about a particular body of water just to stir the mud and see how many people flock to it!
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    I got the Livescope in October last year. Iíve caught hundreds of crappie and not kept one. My freezer has all I need. Livescope is unbelievable. The things you see and the way the fish react are something Iíve learned I never had a clue. For instance fishing standing timber, those things will chase the bait down and hit it. I always heard the bait needed to be above them because they look up.

    One of the problems Livescope creates is, I find myself hunting and no longer fishing. I normally donít have a lure in the water until I see a target. Yes it cuts down time but you still have to know where they are located.

    As for hurting the population, Iím not sure it will. I find crappie in places that are never fished and I fish large reservoirs in eastern Oklahoma. There are a lot of crappie areas to fish that these new electronics will open up.

    Yes, Iíve had days where they just would not hit the jig unless you held on their nose for a couple of minutes and others where theyíre very aggressive. So, just because you have this new technology, it doesnít mean youíre going to catch a lot every time out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by footballcoach View Post
    you going to see them little fishes swimming around your boat and they won't bite. You gonna be mad!
    That’s very probable. However I will get to see them, bite or not. I also won’t waste time fishing where they aren’t. I don’t expect the Livescope to make me the next Ronnie Capps but I know it will help me catch fish. Just another tool in the toolbox. I don’t mean to wish time by but I really can’t wait til summer to see what the big cats look like in tbe deep holes below the dam.

    This is a crappie fishing forum but I just fish. I like to catch crappie but honestly I just like to catch fish, regardless of what they are. I figure that Livescope is gonna see some bream bed action about May.
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    here in Texas they say Mother Nature deals the death blow to the crappie and not anglers
    I don’t know for sure but I see a few small lakes that take beatings and still hang in there .
    Will a graph put fish in the boat ? Not likely in some cases , but it will for sure give a decided advantage on finding them.
    I don’t even have a boat anymore so I don’t get to graph much of anything these days but I do know this much for pretty sure .
    If I dangle a jig for very long and don’t get bit there ain’t likely many fish where I am dangling it ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicklundrh View Post
    One thing to think about:

    The majority of people on public forums (or the internet in general) are not reporting their normal catch. You might see 20 people that post pictures of "limits" of fish. Coolers full of fish. Livewells full of fish. Stringers full of fish. The reality however is that the other 400 people didn't catch anything! In other words, nobody seems to report when they catch 2 fish. Or six fish. But have zero problems thumping their chest to be the "Internet Rockstar" when they do finally catch a large amount. If you see someone with a photograph of a ton of fish, do a little research back and see when the last time they posted catching that many. Was it a month, two months previous. Does that mean that they didn't fish for the last month or two? No, it simply means they only feel it necessary to thump their chest when they do good!

    I see forums all the time where people are posting limit catches of fish. A week later they are complaning because there isn't anyplace to park, there isn't anyplace to launch their boat, and there isn't any access. Did they ever stop to think about the consequences of their "chest thumping" posts?

    In the days of old, people didn't share information. One might wonder if it had to do with the fact that they wanted to keep the fish to themselves. OR, one might think that they didn't want the word to get out and their "special place" to be overrun. Back then you also didn't seem to have the braggert type of people. Today, a large majority of people always want to one up someone. Their bragging (in the form of a photograph) has consequences.

    My point in all of this is simple. For every post someone is making with their rockstar pose, they probably went to the lake 20 times and didn't catch much. These people are hard wired to only report the good and not the bad! Local areas are starting to see the dangers of these types of posts. As a whole, I don't think that one particular fish is being fished out (as a whole) HOWEVER: when people start seeing limit catches on the internet from "Rockstars" in one particular location, it brings in the masses which results in more fishing pressure on that particular area than it might have had if they would have kept quiet about it!
    This is 100%

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