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    I have a G3 john and want to install double seats. I have the pedistal mounts but I am looking for a good way to secure them to the front deck. I am a big guy and don't want to end up in the floor of the boat.

    Please help.
    Last edited by Majesticman; 04-25-2006 at 05:59 PM.
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    Anybody?
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    wally marshell put out a rig for double seat up front that doesn't look to take alot of altercation to boat.

    Also I think one of the rodholder companies has a prefab double seat base that doesn't require a bunch of holes in boat.

    I have a g3 165 pf and my partner and I fish tandem while trolling.

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    I bought one a couple of years ago off a link on this site. The man that built it was very professional and delivery was fast. I really like this - except for one major item - when it's placed in my boat - it blocks access to the front livewell. So on those occassions I do catch fish - I have to get up and go to the back livewell. That is a problem on some windy days.

    http://www.crappiestuff.com/dual_seat_adaptor.html
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    Can you weild a screw driver, wrench, and a drill? Maybe you can add two seat mounts to the front deck of your boat. I was thinking about making my own out of plywood and some pedistal seats, deck mounting bases and some bass seats that are sold at the local Wal-Mart.

    One of the crappie.com members from IN makes these and sell them though his web site. His name is Patrick and his last name starts with the letter "V". Can't remember his last name. He fishes crappie USA sometimes with his son. He is from the Northern part of IN. I have met him once while fishing at Patoka. He was fishing the tournament and me and larry were fishing a good crappie fishing spot on the main lake. Larry and I invited him to fish in the same spot as we were just fishing for fun. But he was not familar with the exact spot where the fish were and didn't catch many and left to fish another spot. Larry and I continued to fish that spot and we both caught a lot of crappie later that afternoon. They were not huge crappie but they were all in the 9" to 10" size range. Patoka has a lot of smaller crappie and the lake has very slow growth rates for the crappie according to the fishery biologist reports for this lake. So it's good to take a few small fish out so that the others can grow bigger faster. That leaves less crappie to compete for the limited food resource.

    I think his name is Patrick Vowles. But I am going from memory here right now and it's foggy at this time! L)

    Sorry that I can't remember his web site. It was down for a while but last time I checked it was back up. He also guides fishermen.

    Try going to www.crappiestuff.com and you will find the Gotcha Gear dual seat adaptor there. If you look at the pictures you can easily see how they make these things.


    I decided that the front of my bass boat is just too narrow for two people. With the depth sounder mounted up on the starboard bow and the trolling motor on the port part of the bow there is just not enough room for the double seats. My boat's beam is too narrow.



    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticman
    I have a G3 john and want to install double seats. I have the pedistal mounts but I am looking for a good way to secure them to the front deck. I am a big guy and don't want to end up in the floor of the boat.

    Please help.
    Last edited by Moose1am; 04-26-2006 at 08:22 AM.
    Regards,

    Moose1am

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    I really need a way to mount regular mounts. I have no way to access underneath the deck to install a nut. I am afraid to weld it or just screw it down.

    Any ideas on a fastener that will do it?
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    I use to work with Sheet Metal but that was in a factory setting and not out in the field. So all I learned was how to measure, cut and form the metal on big machines. We use sheet metal screws. The iron worker guys are the ones that you probably need to talk to for figuring out a way to secure the base to the boat deck.

    Now if this was hanging a picture on dry wall then I would suggest those toggle bolt things that expand inside the dry wall and secure a nut for the screw to go into behind the drywall.

    Maybe they have something like that for sheet metal. If you have thin aluminum decking like my Fisher Marine Boat has then you may have to do like my manufacture did and attach some thicker marine ply wood underneath the thin aluminum decking to support the heavy duty seat bases.

    My bases are attached with 6 to 8 huge 3/8" thick by 3" long bolts with a round head and slotted for a large bladed screw driver. I have a small opening to the underneath the deck storage area. I barely can squeeze though this opening and work inside the storage area. But you said you don't have access to the under deck. You need something that has legs that will fold up next to and parallel with a long nut and then flip out once the wings are though the hole.

    Check with Lowe's Hardware Store, Home Depot or a nearby Ace Hardware store and see if you can find something for this task.

    Remember to try to get a like metal screw to prevent electrolysis from occurring. Dissimilar metals can create an electron flow from one metal to the other and cause some corrosion. So if you get aluminium on aluminum this won't happen so badly. If not then use stainless steel if you can find some. They are more expensive but they ware stronger and should be the best for the job. You'll want a head on the bolt that lays flat or is counter sunk depending on the hole you are putting the bolts though and the shape of the pedestal base. ie if the hole in the base is counter sunk you may need a different type of bolt head that sits down inside the countersunk holes.

    Maybe someone else have some other ideas. I didn't read the entire thread before I replied to this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticman
    I really need a way to mount regular mounts. I have no way to access underneath the deck to install a nut. I am afraid to weld it or just screw it down.

    Any ideas on a fastener that will do it?
    Regards,

    Moose1am

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    How about building a box and installing two seat mounts on the box and use a pedestal under the box to fit into the one on your boat? This is how several are made I have seen. Put carpet over the box to match the boat.
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    Try this method: Take a regular bolt & bend to shape of the letter of a
    capital ell, of course you need to cut the head of bolt off. Use 100 per
    cent silicone caulking to the side of bolt that will make contact to under
    neath decking. Put rubber band around bolt to prevent it falling down.
    Mount the pedestal & snug bolts, after a little while you can tighten all
    you need to, the silicone will have set-up. Pedestal will not dump you.
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    Another option from tite-lok - although a bit pricey for me.

    http://shop.titelok.com/?page=shop/f...178a7d85573281
    Last edited by CrappiePappy; 04-26-2006 at 06:20 PM.

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