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    Quote Originally Posted by T_om View Post
    There are a TON of different techniques all piled in under the name "spider rigging". There is a poll running right now that is esentially worthless when it comes to asking about "spider rigging' as a favorite technique.

    The term originated, as far as I know, years ago and back then meant wind drifting minnows with multiple poles out. In some cases 20 or more.

    But now it has morphed into a meaningless catch-all term supposedly covering any boat fishing more than 1 rod over the side, even covering what we are doing... pushing jigs.

    We use 20 foot carbon fiber poles. We found getting the lures away from the boat as far as possible helped the catch rate. When we first started we used 16 and 18 footers. We sit in the front of the boat side by side and fish 8 to 10 (usually 8) poles out the front of the boat.

    Our rigs, going from lure to reel are:

    Jig (no minnows any more, not necessary)
    3 foot fluorocarbon leader 4 pound test.
    Smallest duolock snap clip made
    SPro tiny swivel
    Slide 3/4 to 1 1/2 ounce (depending on depth fished) onto our main line which is either 6 or 8 pound Power Pro braid.

    These rigs are spread across the front of the boat from dead ahead to 90 degrees off either side. We are essentially straining a 40 foot wide swath across our path. We push these from 1 to 1.5mph and cover a lot of ground.

    That is about as far as you can get from wind drifting 20 poles with minnows, yet people still call it "Spider rigging". Oh well.

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    Well thanks for helping me sort that out. I suppose then it is either drifting with the wind, or direction control drifting under power, with a bunch of rods in the water, and you can call it whatever suits your fancy. lol
    Your rig, as I understand your description, is essentially a sliding sinker rig?
    In that you start by sliding the sinker on the main line, then attach a small swivel on the end of the main line, then a small coast lock snap onto the swivel, followed by a length of fluro leader to the jig on the bottom?
    The fluro leader grabbed my attention frankly. Ive watched lots of videos from well known people who claim that Crappies aren't line shy and color don't matter. But obviously you don't subscribe to that theory?
    Since your using 4# for the leader, im assuming its plain fluro line and not fluro leader material?
    Ive got lots of spools of fluro leader from my salt water days, but ive never seen it in that small line strength.

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    We use this for leader: Amazon.com : Seaguar Red Label Fluorocarbon 200 yards Fishing Line (4-Pounds) : Sports & Outdoors



    And yes, to me fluorocarbon makes a difference. We use sliding sinkers rather than fixed because when a crappie shakes his head, we don't want him able to use the fixed sinker as a fulcrum to yank the hook... the head shakes are transmitted to the flexible rod.

    This rig works for us, in the lakes we fish, YMMV.

    Tom


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    Well, we buy a 6000 dollar boat, put a 1000 dollar trolling motor on it, outifit it with 2000 worth of electronics and then worry about spending 10 dollars for bait? I just look at cost of bait as part of the hobby. I spend 30 dollars on gas for the trip up and back, 10 bucks for snacks, 2 dollars for sun screen and loose a handfull of jigs most days. If I wanted to save money, Id go back to work! I worked hard so I could retire and spend time fishing.


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    Here, here eagle. Minners cost me less then a nickle a piece and catch fish or die trying by gosh!
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    To my long-time fishing buddy and myself, it isn't a matter of cost so much as... why bother? We did extensive testing, and for our way of fishing (pushing jigs) minnow were a complete waste of time. Not just money, time. Time spend messing with the things, buying them, keeping them alive, botherin to use them... an yes, we found out after a LOT of tests that we did as well or better with just jigs alone. We push jigs out in front of the boat(s) (his and mine) at about 1 mph and the fish we get are from reaction strikes. It has nothing to do with "taste". They see the jig and hit it.

    Way back in the day, I fished a LOT of crappie out of deadfall tree tops along the banks by dipping minnows. It was the only way I fished them. But we learned about pushing jigs and never looked back. We fish every Wednesday, weather permitting, all year round. And catch fish, summer or winter.

    No minnows necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_om View Post
    ... minnow were a complete waste of time. Not just money, time. Time spend messing with the things, buying them, keeping them alive, botherin to use them...


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    My minnows cost less than the artificial baits that I buy. I catch them with a !/4" mesh 5' casting net out of my families catfish pond so they cost the price of just catching them. I will say that artificial is a lot cleaner and at times just as good. They both have there place in my boat and minnows are all my wife likes to fish with when she fishes with me.
    Be safe and good luck fishing
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    A lot depends on where you fish as well. I would like to see some of these "I ain't got a fool with a minnow, I'm a pro jig man" type guys come show us how it's done on the Big 4 in MS. Certain times of the year you will be the ones at the ramp when asked, how many you catch? None! They just ain't biting
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    Cost effectiveness and fishing don't belong together in the same sentence. LOL
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