Thank you for the the information Skip. I was looking at the one I tied and now I see why the collar is removed. I'll be tying a few up tomorrow for a trip to the lake on Friday. Leaving out of Starrett Creek.
If you are taking about the collar, I use jig heads that do not have a collar and if I had one that had a collar, I would cut it off.
As for the weight, look at a 1/16 with no collar and a 1/16 with collar, both heads are the same size even though the collar adds weight to that jig, both called 1/16 and for sure the one with a collar probably is closer to 1/8 than 1/16? For sure will weigh more so anytime I am talking about a jig head it's a no collar unless it's a hair jig, then I want a collar, but not just any collar. Once I got a guy to make a mold for me by copying a head I sent him, then we talked about what I wanted. It was a thin as possible collar with a flair on the end just to control thread width, then the collar I want for keeping the hair from spinning around the shank as easy as it does. This was for a kiptail jig I was tying for some guys in Louisiana.
For me I don't like the heads to weigh too much more than it's stated weight and most do not if they have a collar! Just for kicks I have weighed every style head I have and it's a lot of different heads and some are really close, but many are not. Once example is a 1/32 Oz Pony head, in truth closer to a 1/24 Oz and it doesn't even have a collar, but if you get a mold for a 1/32 Oz pony head with collar, I bet the head size is the same which will make it even heavier!
True Original Marabou Roadrunners, 1/32 is super close, but the 1/16 is not close to 1/16, why I don't know.
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Thank you for the the information Skip. I was looking at the one I tied and now I see why the collar is removed. I'll be tying a few up tomorrow for a trip to the lake on Friday. Leaving out of Starrett Creek.
I think Skip nailed it on 1/8 and 1/4. They are a great tool in the arsenal of jigs. And here in Iowa buck tails are the look. Not the hot set up the further south I go or I don't know how to fish down there.
The nearest tackle shop is 40 mins away. So, I dropped into Walmart to look at their barren shelves. Nothing in 1/4, but I found a few 1/8th oz package. Here are some I tied real quick with what I have in my materials. I do like natural and synthetic bucktail for tying tails vs feathers. I will see which gets more strikes and keep a mental note. There are few color options I'd like to buy for the main body and thicker yarn. Yarn for small trout flies just doesn't cut it for 1/8th oz jigs. LoL
My favorite deep water jig is a 3/16 jig head with a size 2 hook. I like 1/32 jigs as much as the next man but you can't tell what a small jig is doing in deep water. Add the wind and your really at a disadvantage.
I went out yesterday afternoon and it was a tough day fishing for us. I'm still learning where to search for the crappie and well that means bites are far and few between. My sons were with me which means I am fishing for 2.5 people instead of focusing on my day. Out of all those I tied I had real good success with the 2nd one down on the left and caught 1 and had a few bites on the 2nd one up on the right. I'm going to tie a handful of those tonight and see how things work tomorrow.
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Time on the water will only make you better. After 50 years of this I still have those days. Just less of them. For me it is the love of the sport. Tying is just the part that has kept the passion going. I have 2 kids that grew up with the poles in their hands more than most folks. Today 1 loves fishing and 1 could care less about it. I guess you never know. Keep up the good work.
I tied a few more I tied up 16 jigs in 4 differnt colors and 2 different weights on Sat. I learned that I don't like 1/4 oz jigs yesterday. "Why" you ask, the hookds don't bend easily and I had to cut a couple off. LoL I'm serious on this one... I hate cutting line and I hate losing jigs. Actually I told my son "Cut it, it's not like I don't have more material to make more for the box." It's a lot easier than getting frustrated.
I'm looking for places to buy material, I'm also interested in finding places online to purchase materials. I typically use Weaver's near Bennett Springs State Park, but they are 2 hours away!