I want to make some for gills. Something 1 1/2" or less. Black or gray fly on a #10 siwash hook #1 Indiana or inline blade. Trouble is I'm not sure if I want the bend (to avoid line twist) hickey in them or not. I'd use them mostly on 2# test. Just a bit of spinner action to call them in saying "hey fellas look at that bug!"....Heck it's snowing up here may as well play in the basement.