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    Anyone have any tips on tying Kip tail? Having problem with holding it together when trying to wrap the thread around it. Thanks for anything

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    Wish I could?? Someone will come though!

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    I put it on in layers. Take a tiny bit make a couple of wraps then add a little more until you have it where you want it. Then wrap as tight as you can without breaking thread. If I don't do it that way I never get the coverage I want or need.
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    Stump has a U TUBE video on tying kip tail. Just google "tying kip tail jigs". Pop

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    I’ll try to tell how I do it. I choose the hair i want and remove the oddballs so its pretty uniform. I have my thread started but not against the head and lay on the hair. A couple of wraps but not too tight, then move the hair around so your coverage is as you want it. You might have to add some, so pull it tight some over what’s already on and add a couple of loose wraps again over what was added. All this time the thread isn’t against the head. Once coverage is right, make a couple of turns while pulling tight and securing it and throw a half hitch on to hold it and let the bobbin hang giving some tension. Now take a razor, a single edge works great, and trim the hair back from the head so that the thread will cover it when its done. Once that’s done, check to make sure the thread holds tight, put on a drop of sally or cement, and finish like you want it to look. I put any flash on first before I add any hair. I add more cement when done for durability. Hope this helps. Putting cement part way through the process helps it stay better for me.
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    First I prefer using a jig head that has a collar and no barb, but maybe a ball of flair at the end of the collar. That helps keep it in place better. You can also make a good thread base and use a little (very little) super glue on the thread and then before it's completely dry you can place the hair on and tie it down. Also make a couple kind of loose wraps before really getting the pressure on, before wrapping too much try and fix the hair like you want it by pushing it around a little. Use a razor blade to trip the hair if needed at the head. I use a double edge razor blade and just be very careful, lol! That is the tool fly tiers use for their deer hair trimming, like on the spinning deer hair type of tying.

    I usually try and get all I want on at one time, but if I find a little area that didn't get any I can easily add a little to a spot before my wrapping is at the continued part.

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    I was watching a guy tie a jig and he spun his bobbin so that when he wrapped it, the thread really played in nice. I have been doing this and have found that it really helps out in securing all of my materials down. I guess that when you spin the bobbin it makes the thread loop around the material so that you can get it tighter.

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    Another little something that came to mind. I use regular thread but if you continually break it you might try a Kevlar thread for the hair. Never heard of anyone breaking that stuff. I use 140 or 210 for most everything I do and don’t have any issues. Just another option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeetbum View Post
    Another little something that came to mind. I use regular thread but if you continually break it you might try a Kevlar thread for the hair. Never heard of anyone breaking that stuff. I use 140 or 210 for most everything I do and don’t have any issues. Just another option.
    Skeet if they are breaking 210, they are just using too much pressure, more than needed! If cost is not an issue they also could buy some Veevus thread, but it's not cheap either!

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