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    Quote Originally Posted by cevans View Post
    crankbaits are normally run 1.4 to 2.2 max. Jigs are lonlined from 0.3 or 0.4 to 1.1 Max not saying you can’t run,jigs faster but they will climb higher in the water column the faster you go unless you use a heavier jig or add weight. The 2 don’t mix too good.
    Ok, cranks tomorrow night, and jigs Thursday night, I'll let you know how I did trying both. once again thank you.

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    Whats the preferred method of pulling cranks with I pilot?

    Follow contour seems to turn to abruptly, I've fiddled with waypoints, but its alot of clicking- unless I save them I guess.

    How do you all pull cranks with I-pilot?

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    I use ipilot to guide with as I do all the driving to where I want to go and record my tracks and then replay them if I want to work a specific area. Others might follow contours but I prefer to go over the points and humps working the different levels of depths till the fish strike the cranks to determine the active fish. I do use advanced autopilot and cruise control also. Just never got into the contour mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binfordw View Post
    Whats the preferred method of pulling cranks with I pilot?

    Follow contour seems to turn to abruptly, I've fiddled with waypoints, but its alot of clicking- unless I save them I guess.

    How do you all pull cranks with I-pilot?
    You can't always stay on a ledge or ditch etc. if a large turn comes up unless you are pushing with sinkers. I do like cevans and record my tracks and let ipilot do all the work until I'm ready to relocate.

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    Fish face into the current. Wind in a lake can set up small currents. On the windward face of a land mass, the wind can create back currents so the fish may be facing the land mass and into the wind near the land mass. Otherwise, the open areas will have a current that goes with the winds.

    Note: The Bandit Depth Charts were based on using 10 lb test mono and that the diameter of 10 lb test mono line determines the Dept of the bandit crankbaits more than the speed from 0.8 mph to 2 mph. So if you use the braided line that's much thinner in diameter than mono line your bandit crankbaits will go deeper than the chart indicated for 10 lb mono line.

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    One more trick that I use. I got this trolling trick from the Herter's Guide Book many years ago. Tie a jig on the back hook of the crankbait. Use about 18" of thinner mono line to tie the jig on. I use a small 1/16 oz jig. The fish will attack the training jig behind the crankbait. This method is on FIRE. I catch Largemouth Bass, Crappie, and lots of Sunfish out over the deepest water in the lake using this method and letting out up to 200 ft of 10 lb test mono and a bandit 300 or 400 crankbait. The longer the bill on the crankbait the deeper it dives generally. The thinner the diameter of the line the less friction between the line and the water and the deeper the line will go as does the crankbait.

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    I would second the map cards, its very important to follow the contour lines and not just wander around aimlessly. The ipilot was the best thing since sliced bread if you intend to troll, there's no comparison. I long line with a 1/16 and a 1/24, usually my hand tied. Speed will determine depth. Also not ever talked about, but two things that have put many fish in my boat. When pulling cranks, sometimes a small jerkbait or tiny crank pulled with weights and 3 way swivels will be deadly. Also don't be afraid to pull shallow cranks in deep water, crappie suspend over open water way more than people think. Drift socks, buckets, chains... Are all part of the equipment. I have also marked fish many times that won't bite going one direction, but swing around and come back the other way and all rods get slammed. It's all about how they are positioned and light penetration. If I usually pull with a double seat out of the back staggering rods from 11 on the outside down to 6 foot on the inside of the rod racks. Trolling catches fish year round, and the bigger whites I feel are caught this way. I haven't fished shallow water all year other than being in Mississippi in cypress swamps, and I probably won't in Indiana this year.

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    That's not always the case
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    Fish face into the current. Wind in a lake can set up small currents. On the windward face of a land mass, the wind can create back currents so the fish may be facing the land mass and into the wind near the land mass. Otherwise, the open areas will have a current that goes with the winds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locator79 View Post
    That's not always the case

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    i would have to agree. There are lots of times I go into the wind and waves and take the beating catching fish, then turn around and go the same track back drifting and the catch is just as good. Same goes for a bank I might troll that is wave swept. Even in a creek channel I have worked up stream then turned around and hammered fish going with the current. Sometimes however, it’s better fishing as the fish hit the baits better drifting. I just don’t know when that is best until I have made my sweeps both ways. I think tho, most of us would rather go with the wind than take the beating into the waves, but, I am the hard headed type and in a 1648 g3 flat bottom jon boat and take a beating. Flat bottom serves my purpose when I am on the river in class 1ish rapids occasionally and I just like the stability of it for a skinny water boat.

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    I power troll jigs and pull cranks at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishervet View Post
    I power troll jigs and pull cranks at the same time.
    what speeds do you do both? Educate me please. And what size jigs mixed with cranks? I have considered both at the same time.

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    I pull unpainted deep divers with no hooks with a jig and leader tied m, or small spoon. Deadly for roaming wipers. But that's the extent of my pulling two at once. I like to keep it all uniform, it the OCD in me.

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