On my 1st spot there were nobody speck fishing & the 2nd spot only 1 boat a green alum. in the area I know ya frequent, surprised we never crossed paths....the pic with Phil paints a better seen of how the chop was just about to a roll, I'd say 8:30 to 10:30 when I experienced the best bite, that or just they had no better baits to chose from, usually happens when by self & no one in area....sorry bout the frustrating start, but great it ended as positive therapy..