[QUOTE=Wardy]I have placed both JandJ and the No-Hang style. Chef's JandJ are much easier and really don't need weight unless you are in heavy current. The spheres work but by the time you buy pvc...glue etc..etc... you don;t save much. I used 5 ft arms. man..., one sphere cracked and the others were a nightmare to handle in the boat. If you have a pontoon boat or barge they would be alright..JandJ took about a 1/4 of the time and went to the bottom like a rock. It took 3 months before the fish really took to them, but they are there for the pickin.