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    Didn't mean to stir a rat's nest. I just wanted to share a couple things I had learned in the past year. (I've been fishing for forty+ years myself.) Different people have different experiences, schools of thought, training and education thus will yield different results. For instance I do not fish for crappie at all. I'm primarily a catfisherman, so for me to be using any kind of artificial is almost unheard of in catfish circles. Thus the need for a public open forums to talk about these things. Which I must say I contribute to less and less these days because people seem to get up in arms over the simplest things.
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    The video you shared about lure characteristics and their importance is the whole point of the above discussion and agrees in part with what I have been trying to say for as long as I've been posting on fishing forums. Long ago I only fished for bass in bass tournaments, but the experience taught me a lot about lures watching others catch fish on different ones as well as on many different waters. Once I started making my own lures (like you), another world opened up about discovering what fish strike and why based on lure components and the unique characteristics of each. The search is ongoing and fruitful to say the least.

    Sorry if I rattled your chain....

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    Understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonminnow View Post
    That may be, but how do you chose lures based on that? Assigning reasons/motives or emotions fish strike lures, assumes fish reason - and thereby are capable of logic or that fish get angry and are thereby emotional as seen in animals with larger and more complex brains.
    Actually Spoony .... I believe "why" they bite is mostly hunger & territorial protection. I just added "anger" as an explanation that YOU are always touting when you say you "aggravate" them into biting.

    We already know that a Crappie doesn't have a complex brain, and survives by instinct. That instinct tells them to eat it, fight it, or flee from it .... and the mass majority of the time it's eat it or flee from it. (which Livescope has shown me, time & time again)
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    Pappy, agreed. Ain't no body gonna tell me a gar ain't ornery.

    And I fish without sonar, so I have to rely on more "attracting" elements of lures in general.
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    Mabe irritated would have been a better word such as the irritation you experience when mosquitoes constantly buzz around your face causing you to you swat at them.

    Regardless, is your lure choice ever based on hunger or what fish are (supposedly) feeding on? How would you know, especially when the fish you just landed has a full belly and a minnow still sticking out of its gullet? Gluttony perhaps?

    In my book, territorialism is just another form of irritation in the world of fish when the feeding impulse is not present. Hey, I just thought of a descriptive word for all strikes: impulsive. It's even better than irritation or anger (a word I don't remember using in past posts), without out being specific regarding the reaon fish strike such as hunger or territorial response.

    But another type of strike not mentioned is related to mob violence - IOW - where after one fish strikes, a feeding frenzy is started, leading to one fish after another being caught, regardless the number fish in a panic seen caught by their nearby buddies. Unless I knew for certain that a baitfish school was near the school of striking fish, I couldn't say for sure those fish struck to eat - especially only a single, solitary lure. I would rather label it stike-frenzy comparitive to a riot started by one individual, which then becomes contagious. In this case you could close your eyes picking out different lures and pretty much all would be struck. (i.e. fish bit this minnow shaped lure, but then struck a claw shaped plastic and then a fly and then a Crappie Magnet, etc. Guess prey-type targeting wasn't relevant.)
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    Since there is a limited time to edit a post, I'm rewriting it because it drives me crazy seeing the errors!! Too bad grammerly doesn't work on c.com.
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    Please delete the duplicate.)


    Mabe irritated would have been a better word such as the irritation you experience when a bee suddenly comes out of nowhere near your face causing you to swat at it. Regardless, is your lure choice ever based on fish hunger or what fish are (supposedly) feeding on at that moment? How would you know if a fish was hungry, especially when the fish you just landed has a full belly and a minnow still sticking out of its gullet? (Gluttony perhaps? lol)

    In my book, territorialism is just another possible cause of fish irritability also present when the impulse to eat something presents itself. Hey, I just thought of a descriptive adjective for all strikes in general: impulsive. It avoids assigning reasons such as hunger, irritation or anger (a word I don't remember using in past posts).

    But another type of strike not mentioned is related to mob violence - IOW a (feeding?) frenzy that involves other fish in the school. (I guess the number of fish hooked, fighting for their lives as seen by their buddies, doesn't seem to matter. So much for fish IQ.) But unless I knew for certain that a baitfish school was near the school of striking fish, I can't say for sure those fish struck to eat - especially that one single, solitary lure I'm catching fish on one after another. A more accurate phrase in my book is strike-frenzy, comparable to a riot started by one individual that became contagious to others in the crowd. In this situation you could close your eyes, pick out one of a variety of lures and know it would be hammered regardless of whether the lure resembled a prey animal or not. Interesting though is when the strikes stop all at once. I would think some fish never got the opportunity to [fill in the word of choice].
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    I have definitely noticed the feeding frenzy-type strike.
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