Thread: white crappie from Fourche Lafave River in 2013 had dangerous levels of PFAS compound

There was wood treatment plants in several locations in Yell County . One big one in Plainview and was subject of a federal superfund cleanup

Originally Posted by NIMROD

There was wood treatment plants in several locations in Yell County . One big one in Plainview and was subject of a federal superfund cleanup

thats interesting, although this PFAS stuff is being found all over the country.

when was the superfund cleanup done ?

The 95-acre Mountain Pine Pressure Treating Superfund site is in Plainview, Arkansas. From 1962 to 1986, three wood-treating facilities operated on site. Wood-treating processes led to soil contamination. EPA added the site to the National Priorities List (NPL) in 1999. EPA’s cleanup included capping sludge and treating soil on site. EPA awarded the town of Plainview a Superfund

People I knew that worked there ( Mtn Pine Wood Treatment) said the containment pond would over flow with heavy rainfall. That ran into Porter Creek nearby which flows into Fouche La Fave River then Nimrod lake . Timber companies used to routinely apply herbicides to surrounding lands which all the creeks from there flow into Nimrod Lake. Wonder what all would be found in sediments of the lake if tested ?

Originally Posted by NIMROD

People I knew that worked there ( Mtn Pine Wood Treatment) said the containment pond would over flow with heavy rainfall. That ran into Porter Creek nearby which flows into Fouche La Fave River then Nimrod lake . Timber companies used to routinely apply herbicides to surrounding lands which all the creeks from there flow into Nimrod Lake. Wonder what all would be found in sediments of the lake if tested ?

that is a very interesting question.

thanks for the info about the superfund status, I found a link to it and did send an e-mail to the coordinator and program manager
MOUNTAIN PINE PRESSURE TREATING | Superfund Site Profile | Superfund Site Information | US EPA

I wonder if occasional heavy rains/flooding could intermittently result in rises in these PFAS compounds. that crappie the epa tested was in 2013.

I asked if they would consider testing or monitoring of the fish from the creek or the lake., will see if they reply.

the limit for PFAS is 70 ppt (parts per trillion ?) in drinking water, and that 2013 crappie had 4,955. the half life for these compounds is like 5 years, meaning it would take about 25 years to get out of your body.

Originally Posted by suvowner

that is a very interesting question.

thanks for the info about the superfund status, I found a link to it and did send an e-mail to the coordinator and program manager
MOUNTAIN PINE PRESSURE TREATING | Superfund Site Profile | Superfund Site Information | US EPA

I wonder if occasional heavy rains/flooding could intermittently result in rises in these PFAS compounds. that crappie the epa tested was in 2013.

I asked if they would consider testing or monitoring of the fish from the creek or the lake., will see if they reply.

the limit for PFAS is 70 ppt (parts per trillion ?) in drinking water, and that 2013 crappie had 4,955. the half life for these compounds is like 5 years, meaning it would take about 25 years to get out of your body.

Back when it was in operation the containment ponds overflowed into Porter Creek regularly with heavy rain according to the guys that worked there years ago . Guys that worked on the clean up told me they doubted it was all cleaned up . They are still testing wells on the site for ground contamination . Just wonder if the fish or sediments in the creek were ever tested ?

Originally Posted by NIMROD

Back when it was in operation the containment ponds overflowed into Porter Creek regularly with heavy rain according to the guys that worked there years ago . Guys that worked on the clean up told me they doubted it was all cleaned up . They are still testing wells on the site for ground contamination . Just wonder if the fish or sediments in the creek were ever tested ?

I did get an e-mail response from the superfund program manager Brian Follin, who was not aware of the article, but was interested in this and would review it and get back maybe next week.

here is a link to the article if anyone wants to read it
Locally caught freshwater fish across the United States are likely a significant source of exposure to PFOS and other perfluorinated compounds - ScienceDirect

this raises some legitimate concerns to me, and at the least it seems some continued monitoring of the soil, and some of the fish should be happening.

Originally Posted by suvowner

I did get an e-mail response from the superfund program manager Brian Follin, who was not aware of the article, but was interested in this and would review it and get back maybe next week.

here is a link to the article if anyone wants to read it
Locally caught freshwater fish across the United States are likely a significant source of exposure to PFOS and other perfluorinated compounds - ScienceDirect

this raises some legitimate concerns to me, and at the least it seems some continued monitoring of the soil, and some of the fish should be happening.

Need to check the sediments in the lake bottom