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shipahoy41
05-24-2009, 06:57 AM
This is a great security blanket especially after cold fronts or when those crappies run deep in the heat of summer. Crappie will be holding tight to bottom cover and tight-lipped, but they still need to eat and are catchable with the right presentation. Look for humps or other bottom-hugging cover in or near main-lake river channels. Fish straight down with a vertical presentation using small live minnows on a Kentucky rig, or very slowly "bounce" small spoons jigged just above the fish. A Kentucky Rig consists of two hooks about a foot or two apart with a bell sinker attached to bottom. I will oftentimes put a minnow on one hook and a tube on the other.

Add the live minnow to the top hook. The minnow kicks, flutters and activates the tube below. The tube in turn adds mass and a dash of color to your presentation, helping crappie to locate it quickly in turbid water.




http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd100/shipahoy41/KentuckyRigs.jpg



Some of you may have seen this already. I guess that comes from being a teacher and school principal. I was a visual as well as hands on learner myself. :D:D:D:D Anyway, thought I'd post it again.

Here is a different version I sometimes will use too.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd100/shipahoy41/ModifiedBottomRig.jpg

Countryboy N.C.
05-24-2009, 07:07 AM
Good info, if only I could remember it when I get out on the water!

albiechaser
05-24-2009, 07:43 AM
yes thats good, I have used that setup for years, and it has prduced well. but lately my best offering is a jig with a minnow.I keep it simple on my setup now, the work is keeping the boat moving right, man I love drifting into a school and having 5 or more rods bent over at once,
you can waste alot of time sitting in one spot, but if ya got a producing honey hole, throw that marker an set that achore,
fun stuff, when there biting lol

speckfinder
05-24-2009, 09:28 AM
can't beat a ky rig when fishing bottom in deep water

blueball
05-24-2009, 09:31 PM
thanks pic will always help newcomers

CrappiePappy
05-25-2009, 07:19 AM
can't beat a ky rig when fishing bottom in deep water

... especially in a stump field :p (which is what the KY Lake Rig was originally designed for). But, I really don't think a 2/0 Aberdeen is necessary :eek: (as indicated in the picture). Even with a 20lb test main line and 10lb test leader lines ... I'm not sure you'd bend one of them open :confused: before breaking the leader line.

I'd say a #1 or #2 Gold or Bronze Aberdeen hook would be plenty big enough. I've caught enough 2+ pound, to almost 3lb Crappie from Barkley/Ky Lakes ... on #4 to #2 hooks ... to know that you don't need a Bass sized hook. Even when Bass fishing with plastics, I never use over a 1/0 :D

... cp :cool:

speckfinder
05-25-2009, 10:16 AM
pap is right about hook size

Arkie John
05-25-2009, 11:46 PM
Good info, if only I could remember it when I get out on the water!

...having a small snap swivel on the top end. Get yourself a piece of styrofoam noodle about 15" long and cut some small slices (not too deep) about 1.5" apart. Then, take the bell sinker and lodge it in the slot and wrap the rig around the noodle. When you come to a hook, just stretch it a little and embed it in the noodle. Open the snap swivel and embed it into the noodle and that will secure your rig for your next trip.

I make up about a dozen or so of them and they serve me well. Because I have the double hook set-up, it is easy to dip too low into the top and lose the whole rig. If I do, I just pop it off and usually, the swivel will come back to me. I just take another off the noodle (it's important to begin taking it off by undoing the swivel FIRST and slowly unwrap it opposite the wy you put it on) and hook the snap swivel into a regular swivel I have at the end of my line and wa-la. I lose virtually NO fishin' time.

It's REALLY fun when you get a double on the same rod. I LOVE it. When deploying into the water, take it slow so the hooks don't get tangled going down.

BTW, I use a loop knot for my small crappie hooks. The sinker allows you to feel the top of the brush top or the bottom--however you are fishing and it gives you the added advantage of knowing exactly where you are fishing. On my Lowrance 520, I can see both minnows and the bell sinker WELL and can manipulate it just where I want it.

So. If you have a noodle full of rigs, you won't forget to fish it...especially when you're having a little trouble finding the depth.

Have fun.

aj

shipahoy41
05-26-2009, 05:52 AM
... especially in a stump field :p (which is what the KY Lake Rig was originally designed for). But, I really don't think a 2/0 Aberdeen is necessary :eek: (as indicated in the picture). Even with a 20lb test main line and 10lb test leader lines ... I'm not sure you'd bend one of them open :confused: before breaking the leader line.

I'd say a #1 or #2 Gold or Bronze Aberdeen hook would be plenty big enough. I've caught enough 2+ pound, to almost 3lb Crappie from Barkley/Ky Lakes ... on #4 to #2 hooks ... to know that you don't need a Bass sized hook. Even when Bass fishing with plastics, I never use over a 1/0 :D

... cp :cool:


On my setup I am always using 6lb line with #4 hooks. Works for me.:D:D:D:D

fishfinder8
05-26-2009, 07:45 AM
Thank you for your pictures. I read all of these type of hints and forget most of them when I'm fishing. But when I see pictures of these rigs it helps me to remember them. I guess I just need visual aids to remember things!

Ken Jones
05-26-2009, 08:30 AM
When I'm fishing Vertical in deep water I have a simalure setup my self. Fishing vertical in 40 to 70 foot of water in the winter time and during the summer when crappie go down to yhere comfort zone. When crappie go deep that set up is great. Only difference we can't use live minnows in Idaho. Cut bait for crappie and yellow perch is very affective. I use a size 6 snelled hook, and a 3/4oz bell sinker on bottom.

shipahoy41
05-30-2009, 06:04 AM
Thank you for your pictures. I read all of these type of hints and forget most of them when I'm fishing. But when I see pictures of these rigs it helps me to remember them. I guess I just need visual aids to remember things!


I am a visual learner too. Sometimes when I am on the water, I tend to "Forget" what weight has worked well before with particular jig/rig combinations. Sometimes I'll use a "Flat river" sinker and sometimes an "Egg" sinker.

I keep pictures in my tackle box of different presentations I want to use. Even when I am using a slip bobber, there is a photo of different weight setups for different lures. I test each setup with the weight and the jig in a 5 gal bucket. I recommend 2/3 of your float be under water so that it provides less resistance to the fish.

Once I have it to the way I like then I take notes and write that down. I'll duplicate the process if I also use a different weight jig sometimes. Find out what is needed to balance it and write that down.

Keep the notes (or pictures) in your tackle box so you can duplicate it on the water. Also take notes (or drawings) on the setup when you add the "Average" size minnow to your setup.