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ribit
06-03-2005, 04:46 PM
The sports section of The Tennessan 6/2/05 thurs. had a picture of what looked like Death Star attractor. Larry Harper of Fulton Ky. has come up with a soultion for an annoying and common problem? Just passing this on. www.onohang.com lol

DmDuck
06-03-2005, 08:31 PM
Looks to me like someone has been hanging around this site and decided to market what they learned .... funny thing is , I bet you do it yourselfers don't have half that cost in 5 of 'em vs. 1 or 2 of the "Store Bought version "

ribit
06-03-2005, 09:19 PM
Thats kind the way I read it too. He has applied for a patent reckon the do it yourself people will have to pay him royalties. lol

fiddlefarter
06-03-2005, 10:14 PM
I read that and started to e-mail Charles Searcy yesterday and tell him that the name that Crappie.com fishermen came up with for them was "Death Stars". Just to set the record straight.

CrappiePappy
06-04-2005, 01:09 AM
Our member "Crawfraw" was the one who made the first referrence to the O-No Hang Fish Attractors looking like "Death Stars" (about a year ago) ... and I guess I kinda took the ball and ran from there :D (as a friendly jab at "Killer" - who brought these attractors to our attention, in the first place)
I don't think I'd get into any "royalties" battle, though .... because George Lucas may want a "cut" :eek:

The attractor kit shown in the Grizzly Jig site is the same one shown in the link in Ribit's post ....... the only difference is the cost of shipping !! (The Grizzly site is about $3 cheaper)

I don't think any of our "do-it-yourself" members have anything to worry about ..... they're going to make their "attractors" and drop them in their waters, without worrying about "patents" or "royalties". And they're going to share their ideas & accomplishments with the other members - free!
But - even so .... at around $10 per "sphere", that's still a reasonable price - if one can obtain the PVC "branches" for nothing. ;) ....luck2ya ...cp :cool:

FalconSmitty
06-04-2005, 01:39 AM
That sphere can be replaced by a $3 basketball. I made 2 with balls. Leave your pvc in 10' lengths and run them thru the ball. It is not perfect looking because each pipe can't occupy the same center. They bend a little but worked well. That was before I discovered Bamboo, (Thanks Jerry Blake) which IMO is the best thing I've ever fished over or made for an attractor.

Stingrayg4
06-06-2005, 09:29 AM
Well since I'm pretty new to this site, I'm not familiar with the "Death Stars", but I know for a fact that I could make something similar for a lot less than they're charging on that site. Looks like a good design. I may knock a few together after I get my boat on the water.

-S

CrappiePappy
06-06-2005, 12:56 PM
How about some pics for our members ??


Smitty - I grasp the idea of the "basketball" as the "hub" ... but, once a hole is put in the ball, it deflates - do you fill the ball with "quickcrete", after inserting the PVC rods ? (would that negate any need for concrete block "feet" to sink/anchor the "star" ??)


Stingray - not all of us are "mechanically inclined" enough to build their own ... not all of us are "home owners", with the space & tools to build such devices ... not all of us are privy to close proximity of the supplies & articles needed to make devices of "any" nature - those people may see the price of a "kit" as being "worth it".

The bottom line is - the device works ... as do the "spinoff" versions, and so do most of the "other" attractor devices -- but, only if placed in the proper place/depth. ..............luck2ya'll .........cp :cool:

Kelly Matthews
06-06-2005, 01:29 PM
Here is the idea that popped in my head after seeing one of the death stars. I found a few old bowling balls (check your closet) drilled about 14 holes in it small enough to drive the 1/2 PVC pipe in with a small hammer, you can assemble in your boat when you find the spot you want to drop it at...it dont take much weight to sink a bowling ball.The ones I have put out have been pretty good fishing so far...People at the boat ramp look at you like you are crazy when they see a couple bowling balls laying in your boat...lol Some of the bowling balls are pretty messy to drill so you may want to do this outside...
Good luck and happy bowling...lol
Kelly Matthews
www.weisslakecrappieguides.com

Stingrayg4
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
Is there a reason why it has to be PVC? I was just thinking of welding some metal pipe into the star formation. I know it will rust eventually, but I'd feel better about throwing something in a lake that will biodegrade over time. Who knows how long that PVC will stay down there.

-S

CrappiePappy
06-06-2005, 05:53 PM
there's good reasons why PVC is used. First and foremost - it's "almost" impossible to snag a jig/hook on PVC. This makes it somewhat better than wood stakes, rubber tubing/hose, or some natural cover stuff (like cane, bamboo, brush).
PVC can be found, for free, at "housing development dumpsters" or retail store "scrap piles". Metal pipes would be quite heavy, and costly (for fittings/pipes) if you had to purchase them. Plus, as you mentioned, they would rust out - eventually. This would make them considerably more difficult to "remove" or "move (if you wished to do so) ... and, once the rusting process set in, they'd become hazardous to line. It would, also, be more easily snagged on (once rusting/biodegrading began).
The whole point of using PVC, is that it "would" last - possibly for generations - making it economically viable to spend the money for these "structures", once ... rather than having to "replace" them every few years.

On some lakes, it is illegal to put "man-made structures" anywhere under the water. Some lakes require permits. In some lakes, it's OK ... as long as you don't create a "hazard" to navigation or people. I implore all our members to do this the "legal" way, following any & all state laws regarding the placement of "cover/attractors" in their waters. ..........cp :cool:

DmDuck
06-06-2005, 08:47 PM
Ok kids behave ..... lol...... Moose , I ain't got a clue what it's called either are you talking about PVC Conduit ?

I think y'all been cooped up a lil long .... go out and fish for peace sakes ....

GRUMPY Ol' Men Revisited

CrappieLips
06-06-2005, 09:27 PM
sticks and stones may break my bones but word's will never hurt me, naner naner booboo.
VV68;;; I've done some pipe fitting in my days on gas wells & compresser station's.

For The first two years chit I did'nt even know pipe had a hole in it!

Yesterday I could'nt even spell pipefitter, chit today I are one. he he he he
You che-ren play sweet now.

FalconSmitty
06-06-2005, 09:34 PM
pappy. A basket ball keeps it's shape with no aircutting the holes without cutting up the ball is the trick. After you start putting in the pvc it holds up. Some air has to be trapped in there. I used a cement block to weight it down. It might even be modified to hold air to make it float then you could suspend it at any depth. How quick will we see one of these floating stars on sale? lol


How about some pics for our members ??


Smitty - I grasp the idea of the "basketball" as the "hub" ... but, once a hole is put in the ball, it deflates - do you fill the ball with "quickcrete", after inserting the PVC rods ? (would that negate any need for concrete block "feet" to sink/anchor the "star" ??)


Stingray - not all of us are "mechanically inclined" enough to build their own ... not all of us are "home owners", with the space & tools to build such devices ... not all of us are privy to close proximity of the supplies & articles needed to make devices of "any" nature - those people may see the price of a "kit" as being "worth it".

The bottom line is - the device works ... as do the "spinoff" versions, and so do most of the "other" attractor devices -- but, only if placed in the proper place/depth. ..............luck2ya'll .........cp :cool:

Stingrayg4
06-07-2005, 07:36 AM
there's good reasons why PVC is used. First and foremost - it's "almost" impossible to snag a jig/hook on PVC. This makes it somewhat better than wood stakes, rubber tubing/hose, or some natural cover stuff (like cane, bamboo, brush).
PVC can be found, for free, at "housing development dumpsters" or retail store "scrap piles". Metal pipes would be quite heavy, and costly (for fittings/pipes) if you had to purchase them. Plus, as you mentioned, they would rust out - eventually. This would make them considerably more difficult to "remove" or "move (if you wished to do so) ... and, once the rusting process set in, they'd become hazardous to line. It would, also, be more easily snagged on (once rusting/biodegrading began).
The whole point of using PVC, is that it "would" last - possibly for generations - making it economically viable to spend the money for these "structures", once ... rather than having to "replace" them every few years.


I understand that there are good reasons for using PVC. I was just wondering if it there would be any reason why you couldn't make one by welding up a bunch of metal tubing. The reason I brought this up is because I have a welder and access to a big pile of scrap tubing. I know it would be heavier & a lot more trouble to get it out into the water, but it has the big advantage (in my case) of being 100% free. I wonder how long it would last before it rusted away. Surely at least three or four years, but maybe I'm just being optimistic.

-S