theres several things bad about owning ugly sticks. one is they never break so you dont have a reason to keep buying once you get what you need. unfortuantly a ugly stick owner NEVER gets all he needs. :D. i have a standing offer on my boat. if anyone breaks one my uglies bringing a fish in, ill buy him a case of his favorite amber. ive never heard one of em snap and would gladly forfeit a case of delicious amber to anyone who gives me that thrill. some these fellers put some awesome bends in them rods, knowing they gonna get a free case of their favorite amber if they break one of my rods. i say my rods cause i dont want anyone hittin one of their uglies with a hacksaw and claiming the prize. :D the second is over on the sc board we got some non beleivers when it comes to uglies. i been trying to convert em, but its a tough process. :D. one is a young feller, still wet behind the ears with a lot to learn and the other is an old codger who is set in his ways, but im trying to bring em around. the struggle continues....:D