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Len
06-15-2004, 07:30 PM
I was on the Watts Bar Lake information site and saw that the Arkansas black nose crappie was just recently stocked. Actually just what does this spieces look like.

Thanks,Len

Jerry Blake
06-15-2004, 07:39 PM
Looks just like normal Black Crappie but has a black stripe from the tip of it's top lip to the dorsal fin and from the bottom lip straight back under it's chin. They seem to be more aggressive on average than either black or white crappie.

FISH ON!
Jerry

CrappiePappy
06-16-2004, 07:42 AM
Sorry Len ... "Blacknose" have been swimming in Watts Bar for well over 20yrs - maybe they were referring to "re-stocking" ??!! There were some pictures on the Brag Board, on the "old" forum site (but I think those pics are gone now) ... but Jerry is correct - they look like a regular Black Crappie, that someone used a black magic marker on ...LOL!! The black stripe runs from under the bottom lip, up between the eyes, to the top fin ... it's a genetic marker trait. They are also harder pulling than either a White or regular Black Crappie - and are more prone to leaping out of the water !! They're definitely a hoot to catch !! They're often referred to as a "Arkansas" Blacknose ... because they occur naturally, in limited numbers, in the White River of Arkansas, and the Arkansas DNR scientists used them to do population control studies in ponds (they could identify them from the other Crappie species control group). Many lakes in this region of the country have been/are being stocked with them. And I'm sure that, with all the flooding the Southern lowlands and river systems are prone to .... some "accidental" stocking has been done (holding ponds overflowing into creeks, then into river systems and possibly into downstream lakes). ..............cp :cool:

shores
06-18-2004, 10:45 AM
I've caught hundreds of them here in NW Arkansas on Beaver lake never knew they had a different name just thought they were blacks. Thanks for the information.

Len
06-20-2004, 10:02 PM
Sorry Len ... "Blacknose" have been swimming in Watts Bar for well over 20yrs - maybe they were referring to "re-stocking" ??!! There were some pictures on the Brag Board, on the "old" forum site (but I think those pics are gone now) ... but Jerry is correct - they look like a regular Black Crappie, that someone used a black magic marker on ...LOL!! The black stripe runs from under the bottom lip, up between the eyes, to the top fin ... it's a genetic marker trait. They are also harder pulling than either a White or regular Black Crappie - and are more prone to leaping out of the water !! They're definitely a hoot to catch !! They're often referred to as a "Arkansas" Blacknose ... because they occur naturally, in limited numbers, in the White River of Arkansas, and the Arkansas DNR scientists used them to do population control studies in ponds (they could identify them from the other Crappie species control group). Many lakes in this region of the country have been/are being stocked with them. And I'm sure that, with all the flooding the Southern lowlands and river systems are prone to .... some "accidental" stocking has been done (holding ponds overflowing into creeks, then into river systems and possibly into downstream lakes). ..............cp :cool:

Do you know if the Black Nose can be stocked or will survive in Northern Indiana? Thanks, Len

CrappiePappy
06-21-2004, 07:34 AM
Len, I would think that Blacknose can and will survive anywhere Black Crappie do ... they aren't a different species, or hybrid - just a Black Crappie that has a genetic "birthmark", so to speak. As far as "having" them stocked, or their already being stocked ... that's a decision that your DNR dept people would have to make, or have made. I don't know that they are any hardier than a "regular" Black Crappie, or if they grow any faster or bigger. They do seem to fight a little harder, and they are more apt to jump out of the water on hookset. I've never had a White Crappie or Black Crappie, actually "jump" out of the water - but I have had several Blacknose do so.
I wouldn't mind having them stocked in some lakes close to me, too. I've heard they are in KY Lake, but never caught one there, in all the years I've fished KY/Barkley. I've also heard they are in Dale Hollow - but have never fished there (just don't like fishing crystal clear water lakes ...LOL!!) I've only encountered them at Watts Bar.............cp :cool:

SpeckleKilla
02-14-2010, 08:33 AM
WoW.. I've Got Them Here In Virginia.. Meherrin River, Nottway River & Private Ponds.. I've Allways Figured That Strip Had Something To Do w/ The Structure The Fish Sat Under.. Sweet.. Now I Know!

Slabjerkin'
02-14-2010, 02:16 PM
We have those here in the lake that I fish in Tx. They don't grow as big as the white crappie but ounce for ounce, as many has already stated, they are harder pullers and they will hit a jig a lot harder as well. They do run and will jump out of the water and is a sight to behold. Size wise, they will get around a pound and a half is about the biggest that I have caught or seen.

brushnjigs
02-14-2010, 02:23 PM
Len,
There are alot of blacknose crappie , dnr has been stocking for the last several years on many of our waters. We started catching them about 4 years ago.

Cracker68
02-14-2010, 02:32 PM
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livnonthelake
02-14-2010, 03:43 PM
I probably catch close to a 100 of these a year on Beaver Lake but I do not recall ever catching one that I would consider a wall hanger. Have any of you caught any that were really large?

Fishtaco
02-14-2010, 06:01 PM
Them is the low slung racing model.

AgriHawg
02-14-2010, 07:17 PM
Check out the Black Nose that one of Jerry Blake's clients caught.

http://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-crappie-fishing-forum/112641-pretty-good-arkansas-blacknose-crappie.html

it's a goodn
02-14-2010, 07:24 PM
here is a 1.92.:D

gabowman
02-14-2010, 09:10 PM
Cool looking.;) Never seen a live one before. Must be a Northern thing.:rolleyes::D

J/K:)

Jerry Blake
02-14-2010, 09:44 PM
Check out the Black Nose that one of Jerry Blake's clients caught.

http://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-crappie-fishing-forum/112641-pretty-good-arkansas-blacknose-crappie.html

That's probably the biggest Blacknose we've ever caught on Greeson. The AG&FC stocked a couple hundred thousand two years ago (they'll be three years old this spring) and we've been watching them grow. They are 12 to 13-inches now so we should start seeing some 2-pound plus fish from that stocking in another year or two.

fishdoc
02-15-2010, 09:34 AM
We've caught several on VA's SML up to 12 inches, caught my first two from Buggs this past yr. Are they a separate species or a cross?

creekslick
02-15-2010, 12:13 PM
We've caught several on VA's SML up to 12 inches, caught my first two from Buggs this past yr. Are they a separate species or a cross?

They are a normal black crappie that are born with the genetic stripe.

livnonthelake
02-15-2010, 07:50 PM
Creek, do you do most of your fishing in the river? All of my family is from Batesville and I use to do a lot of fishing with my grandpa there along the river. Great times. I love that town.