i use 1/16th or 1/32nd jigs under a float,i do use split shots for weight to stand the float up. i do use the smallest float i can get by with. i like the casting floats with the bobber stops i like the thill floats but use the cheaper BPS floats 5 for 2.99 if the fish are in 10-12 ft of water put the jig at 8-9 ft crappie come up to feed not down hope this helps