Hubby decided to get a new one. He had been using a 14 ft. John boat on river by house. Easy to get up the bank. Tie rope to boat. Run through pulley in tree then attach to truck. Pull it right up. But getting it into back of truck was getting to hard. So went shopping Monday. First stop we scored. Dicks had Old Town Saranac 146 on sale. Got it for $479.00. Has built in seats with adjustable back rests. Also dry storage. Felt even better when we got home and I checked BP and Cabelad. Their price was $699.99. Also got another $60 off of purchase by getting a Dicks credit card. Which will get cancelled it comes in.