All ways find fish first whether on brush or suspended near creek mouths or bridges. If you find fish on brush do not set up on pile but get off from it a ways. Set lights just under the water and fish with minnows just below the lights all the way to the bottom. It will take trail and error to get it dialed in on your lakes. Make sure you get bait around your lights too. If no action in a reasonable amount of time move. Hope this helps