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dooperman
04-25-2018, 04:33 PM
I am somewhat of a newbie, and I fish a body of water (Back Bay in Virginia ) that is fairly shallow, in the 6-8 foot range. I am looking for a crappie crank bait that doesn't dive too deeply. Do you fellow members have any favorites? Brands? Sizes? Colors? Thanks,

Cray
04-25-2018, 04:46 PM
Bandit 100's and possibly their 200. The last time I fished there in late 70's it was so full of grass you couldn't pull a crank. Has it cleared up a lot? Think I might try long lining some light jigs in there.

slabin
04-25-2018, 05:08 PM
Bandit 100's and possibly their 200. The last time I fished there in late 70's it was so full of grass you couldn't pull a crank. Has it cleared up a lot? Think I might try long lining some light jigs in there.Your a old geezer.

CrappiePappy
04-25-2018, 05:25 PM
It might depend on how you're fishing them (casting, trolling, Pushing, etc) but ...

You might consider something like the Cordell/Pradco shallow crank or a Bandit "squarebill" crank .... both of which are gonna dive at less than 6ft deep (though, that might be a measurement used for casting :dono ).

Then there's the "minnow baits/jerkbaits" ... like the Rapala or Rebel Minnow style baits.

Colors : if it's normally fairly clear water - shad, and muted colors (light pastels) ... if it's stained or brackish - chartreuse, reds, purples, even orange.

Cray
04-25-2018, 05:55 PM
Your a old geezer.

Yes I am, but what a life I have lead:Rofl

Erin Brewer
04-25-2018, 09:31 PM
Arkie 250 are smaller and shallower diving..... never used em but know a lot of folks push em instead of pull em


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dooperman
04-26-2018, 04:44 AM
Crappiepappy! I love it. Great name. Thanks for your advice and help.

dooperman
04-26-2018, 04:48 AM
Thanks Erin! Not sure I know what "push em" means though............

CrappiePappy
04-26-2018, 07:02 AM
Thanks Erin! Not sure I know what "push em" means though............

"Pushing" is a trolling method where the rods are running out the front of the boat, heavy weights on the main line & cranks on a leader line (or tied directly to main line), and boat speeds are in the 1-2mph range. It's generally considered "Pulling" if rods are out the back of the boat (& heavy weights) .... and Long Line Trolling (Longlining) if no weights are added to the line. Pushing is different from Spider Rigging by the weights used, the use of cranks, and the greater speed.

Those are my general definitions, but others may have differing opinions. The lines of distinction between the methods are somewhat flexible.

Central Minn
04-26-2018, 07:02 AM
My wife and I have been using a lot of ULC3 and ULS4 rapalas the last two summers, the 4s dive 4-6 feet the 3s will deep to 10-11 with 6lb Berkley fireline crystal. In shallower water we'll run the 3s with the rod tips high in the rod holders.

Rees Guide
04-26-2018, 07:07 AM
Run any bait you want, use a cork to control depth.

wicklundrh
04-26-2018, 07:44 AM
As Rees mentioned, ANY bait will get you to the depth you want to be. The reality on diving is in the "Setback". As in, how much line distance from where it enters the water to the bait. As Rees pointed out, it could be as simple as running your desired distance (setback) and then attaching a cork to ensure the bait cannot use any more line than that "Setback".

Instead of a cork, we use planer boards. Exact same principle but with a twist. It takes your baits out away from the boat. So, Pico, Arkie, Rapala, Bandit, Flicker Shad, Hot n tot, reef runner, will all dive from 0. All of them have different terminal depths (where they plane or level off) but all of them will run from 0 to a certain depth!

Erin Brewer
04-26-2018, 09:19 AM
Go over to the Mississippi board and check out pulling cranks 101 absolute ton of information in there!


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Rees Guide
04-26-2018, 09:24 AM
As Rees mentioned, ANY bait will get you to the depth you want to be. The reality on diving is in the "Setback". As in, how much line distance from where it enters the water to the bait. As Rees pointed out, it could be as simple as running your desired distance (setback) and then attaching a cork to ensure the bait cannot use any more line than that "Setback".

Instead of a cork, we use planer boards. Exact same principle but with a twist. It takes your baits out away from the boat. So, Pico, Arkie, Rapala, Bandit, Flicker Shad, Hot n tot, reef runner, will all dive from 0. All of them have different terminal depths (where they plane or level off) but all of them will run from 0 to a certain depth!
Spot on!