We use Arkie Salty tubes.2 in is or fav.But really liking the 2.5 "can use a heaver tube jig 3/16-1/4 oz.With the inside tube jig's 1/8 oz/3/16,1/4 oz # 4-2 black nickle hook.We get over the tree/structure/brush pile.We like at least 20' of water. We drop or pitch the tube down into the brush.Crank or reel up one click.Try to hold the tube as still as possible."almost impossible" We watch the line for the line to jump where the line enter's the water.set the hook.On rare days "when they are biting"you will feel a thump.Be careful with getting trolling motor over the brush.Trolling motors are so powerful these days the thrust will reach the brush pile and spook the fish.We use marker buoy to mark the brush"Arkie stealth buoy"black" has the best in the business.You can see them but other boats cannot."black"hope this helps.Your kid's grandkid's can do this and catch some fish that cannot cast.,Black/chart,White/chart.All colors catch fish are Arkie would not make or sell them.Good fishing.