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genec
05-21-2016, 08:47 AM
I AM NOT INTENDED TO COVER IT ALL BUT I COME ACROSS MANY WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE JIGS NOR HOW TO USE THEIR UNITS WELL AFTER SPENDING MUCH MONEY FOR THEM;1 IF POSSIBLE GET A GOOD GPS,2D,DI AND IF YOU CAN SI,LEARN YOUR UNITS, HOW TO INTERPRET IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A GREAT PIC,MANY I KNOW CAN ONLY TURN THEM ON AND TELL YOU HOW DEEP WATER IS AND THAT IS ALL,2 LEARN MAPS,BEING ABLE TO PICK OUT GOOD STRUCTURE BEFORE YOU GET TO LAKE,MANY WILL HAVE PUT BRUSH ON THESE SPOTS; 3 KNOWING SEASON HABITAT OF YOUR FISH; 4 IF JIG PERSON ,MASTER YOUR JIG,MORE TO IT THAN CAST AND WIND,FIND A SPOT THAT IS LEVEL IN 10 T0 15 FOW AND CAST AND CONT IT DOWN, WHEN IT HIT BOTTOM SLOWLY WIND FOR AWHILE THEN STOP AND COUNT DOWN AND SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO HIT BOTTOM AGAIN,THIS WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT HAS RAISE OFF BOTTOM,NOW USE ANOTHER SIZE JIG AND DO THAT AWHILE UNTIL YOU GOT IT PIN DOWN,I MOSTLY USE 1/32 AND SOME 1/16 SIZE ON 4 LB FLOW LINE;HAVE A LIGHT SENSITIVE ROD,DO NOT HAVE TO COST MUCH OR BE THE BEST,REMEMBER A GOOD JIG PERSON CAN TAKE A BAD ROD AND OUT FISH A BAD FISHERMAN WITH A GOOD ROD SO MASTER IT;7 BE VERSATILE,BUT MASTER ONE STYLE BEFORE GOING TO ANOTHER,A GOOD JIG PERSON SURE CAN MAKE FISHING ON BAD DAYS LOOK EASY;8 WHEN YOU GO OVER STRUCTURE AND SEE FISH ON DI,STOP UNIT AND FISH THAT DEPTH ,THEN LOOK AT YOUR FISH AND LOOK AT UNIT TO DETERMINE SIZE OF FISH ON UNIT, ALSO LOOK AT DEPTH SETTING ON UNIT SO YOU CAN KNOW WHEN YOU GO OVER NEXT SPOT OF FISH,ARE THESE DOTS THE SAME SIZE OR SMALLER ,AFTER AWHILE YOU KNOW WHEN TO STOP AND WHEN NOT TO STOP;IF YOU HAVE SI AND LOVE TO FISH DOCKS IF YOU WILL TILT YOUR SI DUCER JUST A LITTLE TO RAISE IT ON RIGHT SIDE ,YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE BETTER UNDER THE DOCKS TO TELL IF FISH ARE THERE WITHOUT HURTING YOU WHEN YO ARE LOOKING AT OTHER OBJECTS,AFTER ALL WE MOSTLY GO DOWN A RIGHT SIDED OF BANK AND IT IS COMING UP ON THAT SIDE DUE TO THE BANK ANYWAY,I ALSO HAVE A DI THAT IS TURN SIDEWAYS TO SEE UNDER DOCKS BETTER THAN SI WILL,ALSO WHEN YOU SEE FISH UNDER DOCK ,COUNT THE POLES OR FLOATS TO WHERE THEY ARE AT AND HOW FAR THEY BACK FROM FIRST FLOAT OR POLE,HOPE THIS HELPS SOME THAT ARE JUST LEARNING AS WELL AS SOME OTHERS,GOD BLESS .MAYBE OTHERS CAN GIVE SOME TRIED AND TESTED EXAMPLE

"G"
05-21-2016, 08:56 AM
Good read

crp4570
05-21-2016, 03:02 PM
Thx for the info. Enjoyed the advise.

brucec
05-21-2016, 03:16 PM
Thank you sir, this is the best info I have read in awhile.

skeetbum
05-22-2016, 04:09 AM
Good read Gene.

NIMROD
05-22-2016, 05:13 PM
Thanks for a good read . My best advice is to find a mentor or hire a guide when trying to learn new tecniques.:twocents

cevans
05-22-2016, 08:38 PM
Good info. I been learning now all my 66 yrs and still learning from your info. Keep it coming.

Redge
05-22-2016, 08:43 PM
Very nice, I appreciate it

genec
05-23-2016, 06:19 AM
THANKS GUYS,I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME GOOD FISHERMEN ON HERE THAT KNOW ALL THIS HOWEVER I DO A LOT OF CAMPING AT THE LAKE AND IT WOULD SURPRISE YOU HOW MANY FISHERMEN THAT HAVE ALL THESE ELECTRONIC AND CAN NOT HARLY TURN THEM ON MUST LESS READ THEM,THEY WERE EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO PUSH A BUTTON AND THEN KNOW WHERE THE FISH WERE AND HOW TO CATCH THEM AND THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED AND THEN ONLY USE THEM FOR DEPTH,SO I WOULD GO SET THEM UP FOR THEM AND SHOW THEM HOW TO INTERPRET THEM,THEN I WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THEM HOW TO FISH THOSE FANCY BAITS WITH THEIR REELS,ALMOST WITHOUT EXCEPTION ALL WOULD FISH BAIT TOO FAST AND NEVER COUNT IT DOWN TO WHERE THE FISH ON UNIT WAS SHOWING FISH.THEY WOULD BUY THE LATEST FAMOUS BAIT AND THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO CLEAN HOUSE,IF ONLY THEY WOULD BUY A FEW PROVING BAITS ,A DECENT ROD ,GOOD LIGHT LINE AND COULD GO ONE TIME WITH SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO USE THEM IT WOULD CHANGE THEIR WORLD,THAT IS WHY I TRY TO HELP THEM.MANY TELL ME BY SHOWING MANY SO MUCH THAT IT WILL HURT YOUR FISHING BUT I BELIEVE IF ONE KNOW HOW TO FISH FAIRLY GOOD HE IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT OTHERS AND IF IT DOES HURT SO WHAT,WE ARE PUT HERE TO HELP OTHERS AND NOT TO JUST KEEP EVERYTHING TO OURSELVES,OCCOARSE WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THOSE WHO GET YOUR INFORMATION AND WILL NOT TELL ANYONE THINGS THEY HAVE LEARN,THOSE I LEAVE ALONE AFTER KNOWING THEM.I HAVE MANY TIMES COME IN AND TALK TO CAMPER AND ASK HOW THEY DO FISHING AND THEY SAID FISH WERE NOT BITTING AND ONLY CAUGHT A COUPLE,THEN WOULD ASK HOW I DID AND I ALMOST HATED TO TELL THEM I HAD CAUGHT OVER A HUNDRED,SO I WOULD TELL THEM TO GET IN MY BOAT EVEN THOUGH I WAS TIRED AND WOULD CARRY THEM OUT FOR AWHILE AND SHOW THEM HOW I FISH AND THEN SET MY ROD DOWN AND COACH THEM,THEY ARE PLEASE AND YOU ARE PLEASE,WHAT MORE IN LIFE SHOULD WE ASK?THIS IS GOD'S WOURLD AND I AM THANKFUL HE ALLOWED ME TO VENTURE THRU IT,PRAISE HIS NAME

Ketchn
05-23-2016, 08:15 AM
you are so right on many levels ....

Special K
05-23-2016, 10:07 PM
Nice read brother Gene. Thanks for sharing your valuable experience and insight with us.
Oh, and congratulations for hitting your 3K post.

genec
05-24-2016, 02:16 PM
HAD NOT KNOWN THAT I HAD POSTED 3K,MY HOW TIME GOES BY

tahoe 50
05-25-2016, 10:58 AM
Again many thanks for your continued help in teaching myself and my son Anthony how to shoot a dock. Its folks like you that make this site and the world a better place. Peace be with you brother in Christ.

Dave and Lynn
05-25-2016, 11:48 AM
Thanks for sharing.

hunter71
05-25-2016, 12:04 PM
Thats some great info! Do think 4lbs line makes that much different over 6 lbs?


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scrat
05-25-2016, 12:17 PM
Wow! Thanks for sharing all the great crappie fishing information.

Lonnie84
05-25-2016, 12:45 PM
I ALSO HAVE A DI THAT IS TURN SIDEWAYS TO SEE UNDER DOCKS BETTER THAN SI WILL

Great info Genec, wish I was down in NC I'd like to go out and let you teach me a few things. Do you have any pics/images of the DI sidways; I've heard of folks doing that but never seen any images of it. I have a 597 DI and plan on upgrading to a Helix 9 or 10 with SI wonder if I should keep the 597 and set it up for sideways imaging and or for shooting straight out in front of the boat. Would that give similar information like a 360? If so it seems that it would be a good tool for slow trolling/pushing baits one could mark fish out in front and head straight for them.

genec
05-25-2016, 01:10 PM
hunter,with a heavier jig 6 lb is fine,however 95% of time I am using 1/32 or less and that why I use 4lb,also I get less curls in line,dave good o hear from you.lonnie ,I have posted some shots and how it was done on the electronic board,it is good for under docks however not for shooting in front of you,i am testing other ways with di,on front slow turning it have not got results I want yet.i do have another one up front that I tilt to look under docks and to see my brushpiles before I get right on top of them,just trying to get as much out of units as I can

agruss
05-25-2016, 03:56 PM
what di unit would you recommend for this purpose? I have a stick steer with the 998 unit mounted on the rear, all is see is behind me. Can the ducer be mounted on the trolling motor shaft at the front of the boat. Will this allow you to sit still or move and see fish before you pass them? thanks for the infro...
agruss

genec
05-25-2016, 05:09 PM
agruss,if you are talking about under docks,only a few are going to hold fish so ducer at back is fine because I just scan under each one with big motor and when I see them I either mark that dock and continue or turn around and fish it,you could do it on tm but imo that would be slower

agruss
05-25-2016, 05:28 PM
thanks gene, slower sounds good to me. I do not do well passing by docks with big motor picking fish out. Many of the docks i fish don't have fish stacked but there are fish there to be had. We also have marina that hold fish and slow would be good there. I will keep reading...
agruss