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David Waters
02-07-2007, 04:54 PM
I have an older model stratus. A 1989 21' to be exact. The steering is so stiff it can be VERY hard to turn when not on plane especially in cold weather). Once on plane it turns with ease, except to the left. It being an older model, it is the old cable and pully system. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to loosen in up? I cleaned up around the front of the motor and added some grease , but it didn't seem to help that much. Any suggestions would be helful.

bugman
02-07-2007, 05:50 PM
My guess would be that the steering cable is bad,i had to replace mine last winter,the colder it was the harder it was to steer.

grubby
02-07-2007, 05:52 PM
you may need to replace all the pulleys or grease them up real good. some had sealed bearings so if you don't have a good needle to use on your grease gun. you will just have to replace the pulleys because they are hard to get grease in them. you also need to look the cables over good to see if the plastic coating is messed up cuasing the cable to slip of the pulleyand putting it in a bind. There are bearings on the steering shaft to lube and inspect. Got an old 1962 glass par that has the same type system on it and they can be a pain. hope this helps you out. not being there myself to look at it its hard to say for sure whats causing it to bind. grubby

pappacrappie
02-07-2007, 06:07 PM
you do not have the pulley system...i am gonn say you have a dual rack system by detmar...most manufactures for that year used the detmar system in the bass boats..if it is a detmar the cables have been disscontinued..you will have to replace the whole system..if i remember right..the system installed should run $450-$500..i'll look tomarrow if you want me too

caseydrew
02-07-2007, 06:31 PM
I've had this same problem with more than one boat in the past and the only solution was new steering cables.

Jerry Blake
02-07-2007, 06:39 PM
If you have to replace the whole steering system I would recommend checking into hydraulic steering. I have no idea what it costs as it came on my Blue Wave but it sure is nice. You can turn with one finger and you don't have to hold the steering wheel to keep it from pulling to one side. The motor will not turn unless you turn the steering wheel.

caseydrew
02-07-2007, 06:44 PM
If you have to replace the whole steering system I would recommend checking into hydraulic steering. I have no idea what it costs as it came on my Blue Wave but it sure is nice. You can turn with one finger and you don't have to hold the steering wheel to keep it from pulling to one side. The motor will not turn unless you turn the steering wheel.


I second that! My new Triton was the 1st bass boat I've ever had w/ hydraulic steering and I would never have another without it.

David Waters
02-07-2007, 06:45 PM
you are exactly right. I would appreciate if you looked at that.

Is there any way to loosen this up in any way besides replacing it? Is this something I should be worried about as far as safety is concerned.

jhaiken
02-07-2007, 06:56 PM
As long as it steers easily to the right, you're okay. If it starts steering tothe left - hold on to your wallet!

papasage
02-07-2007, 06:58 PM
my 1979 bumble bee bass boat with a 55 hp . evinrude was stiff . it had a single cable rackinpinion stering i replaced all but the steringwhell . it was $150.00 i installed it myself . it turns like a power stering . the torque of the engin will make it pull to the right . the tab on the bottom just above the prop will take that out .if it is the plastic coated steel cable i have bought that at hardware store . made stickstering cable with it also.

CatFan
02-07-2007, 07:31 PM
Is this something I should be worried about as far as safety is concerned.

You mean like the steering letting go and the boat spinning around violently at high speed throwing you in the water? I saw the results of that 3 years ago. Not something to mess with, IMO.

ifish
02-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Hey David, I used this . http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=17932&hvarSearchValue2=509&hvarSearchValue3=959&hvarSearchValue4=00&hvarTarget=search&AFID=&sourceid=&cmCat=SEARCHRESULTS Worked great on my old Tracker.

1weezer
02-07-2007, 08:25 PM
I agree, hydraulic steering is THE way to go. Never had a boat that the steering was as good as the hydraulic steering on my triton.

fiddlefarter
02-07-2007, 09:17 PM
I'd just replace the whole system with a new teleflex. It'll be like $200. You could probably just replace the cables if you want. You can crawl up under the dash and there ought to be a number on the helm that corresponds with the cables.

My cables in my 93 Stratos need to be replaced too, they're stiff too. I will probably get around to it this spring.

Hydraulic is very nice.

old fuzzy
02-07-2007, 09:34 PM
if the cables are to be replaced how hard would it be to convert to r/p or hydraulic assist,saftey is first and foremost

pappacrappie
02-07-2007, 10:38 PM
here is what you will have to have.. http://www.boatpartstore.com/dualrack.asp this is about as cheap as you will find it..add $100 for install..

pappacrappie
02-07-2007, 10:39 PM
hydraulic will run $800-$900 installed

Darryl Morris
02-08-2007, 06:19 AM
Last year I ran over a 2x6 floating in the lake. It broke a chunk out of the cavitation plate and snapped the trim tab off. I got the plate welded but the trim tab completely escaped me. I drove the boat for nearly six months fighting the steering just like you explained - hard to turn (lots of torque) but easy once on plane. I replaced the $13.00 part and now no problem. You might want to check to see if your trim tab is still there or that it hasn't moved on you.

prchjerker
02-08-2007, 02:01 PM
Once your steering cable starts getting stiff, it will only get worse.What happens, is the cable that runs through the outer jack starts to rust and gets gummy from condensation, grease and dirt over time.Theres no way to grease it or reverse the stiffness.Dual cable systems will run around 400.00 to 450.00 plus the labor.Hydraulic steering system will run you around 1100.00 if you have a motor larger than 140 or 699.99 for an outbaord up to 140.00 hp.Either way the motor will more than likely have to come off the boat ( especially on bass boats) to get the old cable out and the new one in.One can plan on 200.00 for labor depending on you location.The one nice thing about hydraulic steering is no whell torque and no more sticky cables ever again.Good luck PJ.

freeflow_23
02-08-2007, 02:47 PM
Go hydraulic if you can afford it. Especially with your size boat and motor.
I installed a Teleflex Safe-T II No Feedback System on my boat with no problems. It works great and does not let the torque turn the wheel at all. Very afforable too. Installed myself when I mounted the motor.
I only have a 40 two-stroke so it steers the motor fairly easily.

Sounds like you definitely need to replace the steering soon before something unfortunate happens.

David Waters
02-08-2007, 06:42 PM
yes, I am thinking about replacing it, but I also have a troling motor that will need replacing in the future. Looks like I need to think about possibly seeling this boat sometime soon.