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Abu65
04-24-2016, 07:02 PM
Do any of you all run a 110V air pump with an inverter? I've been looking at the bubbles 110v commercial air pump but I can't find anywhere the amount of current draw for the unit. So I have no idea how to size the unit. I also would like to know if I install it in the back of an 18' boat would I have enough air flow if I ran a tube to the front?

scrat
04-24-2016, 08:35 PM
I run a 12 volt bubbles aerator in my boat hooked up to my starting battery. It has two hoses and I use 2 - 5 gal. buckets with styrofoam liners and it keeps minnows alive all day for me and my wife I have one bucket in the front and one in the back so we don't have to bother each other getting minnows from one bucket. I have had this one unit for several years now with no problems.

https://grizzlyjig.com/p-250-power-bubbles.aspx
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"G"
04-24-2016, 08:52 PM
I run a 12 volt bubbles aerator in my boat hooked up to my starting battery. It has two hoses and I use 2 - 5 gal. buckets with styrofoam liners and it keeps minnows alive all day for me and my wife I have one bucket in the front and one in the back so we don't have to bother each other getting minnows from one bucket. I have had this one unit for several years now with no problems.

https://grizzlyjig.com/p-250-power-bubbles.aspx
https://grizzlyjig.com/images/Product/medium/250.png

I have the same thing in my boat.....been useing it for over five years now.

Rees Guide
04-24-2016, 09:16 PM
I run both, inverter in the front with both lines tied together for my minners and the 12v bubbler in the livewell with both lines tied together. The inverter is handy for cell phone charging and stuff too.

Abu65
04-24-2016, 09:22 PM
Rees Guide do you know what size inverter you have? I'm think of going this route so when I'm on a trip etc. I can just plug my inverter in with my battery charger so I'm not drawing on my battery while I'm charging. They may not be an issue, however it is on my mind.

Rees Guide
04-24-2016, 09:28 PM
Have to look in the morning

Cray
04-25-2016, 09:46 AM
I'm probably going to step on a few toe's here. But this is something that bothers me every time I see one of these posts. This is just my opinion and take it for what it is worth to you. 110 inverters have no place in a boat where there is the potential for electrical shock. Especially where it has a path into a water source where you are going to be putting your hands. Yes a bunch of guys have done it for a long time and nothing has happened but when the potential is there at some point I'm afraid we will read a post where one of our family members on here had a accident with this. The few dollars it cost for one like Scrat posted verses a cheap 110 pump and inverter is not worth it in my opinion. Having one to charge a phone is a total nother animal.

Cray
04-25-2016, 09:50 AM
Rees Guide do you know what size inverter you have? I'm think of going this route so when I'm on a trip etc. I can just plug my inverter in with my battery charger so I'm not drawing on my battery while I'm charging. They may not be an issue, however it is on my mind.
In your case the 12 volt bubbler draws so litlle juice that charger will keep battery charged while running bubbler. More than sufficient. I run mine anytime I'm at cabins or camp ground and never had a problem. If your worried about that get a 5.00 pump and a dual outlet plug to fit into extension cord. That you plug charger into.

Abu65
04-25-2016, 11:47 AM
You have a valid point and I thank you for bringing it up. It's not a money saving route I was trying to take as much as convenience and noise reduction thing. When you consider the price of the inverter and the $55.00 110V commercial bubbles pump that I'm looking at it is a considerable amount of money going the route I am headed. The marine inverters are a considerable amount more than the standard truck inverters and by the time you run it thru a gfci pigtail at bare minimum I may be better off going the direction of the 12V system.

I was asking about sizing the inverter because being the weekend I couldn't get tech support at marine metal products and I cannot find on line how much AC current they draw. From what I can tell if you go above a 300W its not worth it. By the way I have both a master and contractors electric lisc. Here so the installation and safety has been on my mind. But like all things it can be done safely and correctly as well as wrong and dangerous.


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Abu65
04-25-2016, 11:57 AM
Your last comment kind of makes a lot more since. I could get both and switch over to shore power when I get back to the cabin. I bought a onboard charger on sale and its a low amp charger and I'm not sure it would fully recover my battery on a quick turnaround with a bubbler running. I should have gotten the bigger charger. Lol


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scrat
04-25-2016, 04:28 PM
The 12 volt system uses 1/4 amps. I have a group 27 marine battery and with my 8 amp. battery charger it brings it to full charge and shuts off on it's own automatically even with the pump running.



12V air pump
Operated on 1/4 amp
Can be easily wired to boat panel

Complete kit includes pump with 6' power cord and copper battery clips, 10' airline tubing, antisiphon valves, and large air stones.
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"G"
04-25-2016, 06:38 PM
I run the air pump.....fish finders.....and live well all day off my starting battery and still have plenty of battery to start engine.....I also sometimes plug my phone charger in power port on boat. You dont really need a inverter.

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moswampy
04-26-2016, 02:14 PM
I fished all week last week with a guy who ran a pump out of the rear compartment of an 18' boat with no issue. He bought aquarium tubing from Wal-Mart and some anti-siphon valves to hook it all up with. Tubing ran on the inside of the boat next to wires with an anti-siphon where he popped it out. Hooked right up with a shorter piece of aquarium tubing to his cooler and it bubbled all day. Never heard a thing from the pump or had to deal with worrying about batteries. He ran a larger system at camp to have water recycling to rid the larger tank of ammonia instead of just using a bubbler system there. I plan on running one on my boat soon to the inside wall of the passenger console.

brushnjigs
04-26-2016, 02:55 PM
Look into a Pro-Air 12v system. I run this and its more than plenty of air for the live wells (and I have 40 gallon divided well) and I can T into the line for minnows if needed and still have plenty of air

SIcrappie
04-26-2016, 11:19 PM
For noise the Frabil Live bait aerator at Walmart is pretty dang quiet. It's also very easy on the batteries. I replaced my engel bait cooler air pumps with these units, and I'm satisfied. They are so quiet I often check to see if they are running. Plus with these you dont have to leave the bait buckets in the boat like you have to when using an onboard 12 v pump. For 11$ they are hard to beat.