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crappiefarmer
01-11-2005, 06:50 PM
Has anybody give these a good try? Thanks CF

fishin3
01-11-2005, 06:59 PM
I don't know if they really catch more fish but they do help with my confidence. I have used them bass fishing and seem to do better but don't know if it was the bait or me believing in it. :confused: I will keep using them. I even found some in jigs that have green hooks. I saw more in BPS catalog but have not got them yet waiting to see how these do.

duane
01-11-2005, 07:42 PM
Has anybody give these a good try? Thanks CF

I have tried them and still use them seem. Have mainly went back to using gold hooks. I think crappie like the extra flash from the gold hook. Just my view.

jaycee
01-11-2005, 07:54 PM
This summer, I did what I call a test. Using a Ky. rig, I used one gold hook and one red hook baited with minnows. Never caught a crappie on the red hooks. I switched them with top and bottom hook. Did catch a few small bass and yellow stripes with the red hooks but no crappie.

I am just starting to fish and am trying to learn so I am trying new things.

I will stay with the gold hooks.

Patrick Vowell
01-11-2005, 08:18 PM
I use them and they seem to help when nothing else is working. I think it is one of those time and place things though. I do not use the gold hooks because they do not come free easily when hung. I like a small bronze hook. My favorite hook of all is the new eagle claw blood hook for crappie. On my home lake red hooks make a huge difference. On some other lakes across the midwest I haven't been able to tell the difference. I think they should be treated like another weapon in your arsenal. I have switched to them 100%. But don't think for a minute that I don't have bronze hooks in my box.

whizkids
01-11-2005, 09:08 PM
I have been using red hooks for 4 years. First was treble hooks for largemouth, then on shiner hooks ( I painted the hooks myself for small mouth) Then I painted the eagle claw EL's for crappie. and painted some jig hooks. There are day's when the red will out produce the regular bronze hook.I have not used many gold hooks. In my view they are just like another color jig. Some times they enhance the bite some days they do not. When the bite slows or does not exist change color hooks. In my view total switch to red is not a home run and may be a strike out.
I have seen days when every fish caught was on a red hook. I have seen days when no fish were caught on a red hook. When tight lining I use eight double hook rods and usually keep both colors on. Even if the bit is predominantly one way I will keep two rods with the other color in case the bite changes.
Four years ago when rigging semi-floating plastics with the bleeding hooks, I was convinced red hooks were the answer. I am just as convinced today that they are just another tool ( variable) in the infinite number of variables there are in fishing.

chaunc
01-11-2005, 10:01 PM
They haven't worked on my home lake. Even when i'm catching crappies on a red and white tube jig they wont hit the red hook. The water here is murky to stained most of the time. Would that have anything to do with it?

CrappiePappy
01-13-2005, 08:52 AM
for stained to murky waters - you might want to try: a larger tube, darker colors, slower presentations, & scents. As for the red hooks ... they supposedly are a "sight" factor, so they may not register as well in the darker waters, as they do in clear waters ... a gold hook may be a better choice. I have some Crappie Magic jigs that have red hooks - but, have yet to notice a catch rate increase due to the "red" of the hook. There may very well be a confidence thing going on with red hooks, gold hooks, etc ... but, unless you're putting the bait in front of them - don't much matter what color you're throwin !!! Once having found a school, or an "occupied" piece of cover ... I haven't found them to be too awful picky about "what" color you put in their face - and I don't change colors, once I start catching them from some spot, until they slow down or stop hitting. Then I'll try a few "other" colors (usually totally different than what I was using) to see if I can entice a few more to hit. ............luck2ya ...........cp :cool:

crap-king
01-13-2005, 09:29 AM
several saltwater fishermen did a study in NC the past 2 summers - it seems as the red hooks were no better or no worse in catching fish - they were experimenting with them for flounder - drum - and trout - I have not used them much crappie fishing - but from what I have seen if you find the fish they will bite the minnow no matter what color the hook is - I have not tried any jigs with the red hooks but I am thinking of getting some red hooks and mold some jig heads with them and try them

Jason Piper
01-13-2005, 09:36 AM
The red hooks have increased may catch rate since I started using them a month ago! Whatever helps this time of year! I use a # 6 tournament series Aberdeen red hook from Bass Pro Shops and they have been a life saver this past month. I will switch back to gold when the bite picks back up though!

lovetofish
01-13-2005, 10:02 AM
I have a friend that swears by the red hook jigs, Never tried the red hook with minnows. I used a red hook jig this past weekend in a local crappie tournament. I didn't see that big of a difference. I caught fish on all the jigs I used. I think jig size, body color and presentation are more important than hook color. There again it's what you have confidence in. That's my two cents worth.




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Moose1am
01-13-2005, 12:31 PM
Give me a gold hook that is flexible and soft enough to bend to get the hook out of a brush pile snag but sturdy enough to lift a 1lb slab into the boat without bending open. I prefer the gold thin wire hooks about #2 size to #4 size for crappie.



Red color hooks. The color Red has a very long wave length. The color red is the first color to be absorbed by water. The deeper the water the more red wave lenght light is absorbed. The red hook will appear to be BLACK in deep or muddy water. All the red wave lenght light waves will be absorbed by the water and the other light wave lenght of light will be absorbed by the hook itself.

An object appears red in color because it's absorbing all the other colors of the rainbow but red. red light waves are the only one's reflecting off the red object. But if no red light can reach a red object then it will apear to be absent of color. Absent of color equals black. Black absorbs all wave lenghts of light. White colored objects reflect all wave lenghts of light.

A white colored jig in very deep water will appear green or blue since only the green and blue wave lenghts of light can penetrate into very deep water. All the other wave lenghts of light will be absorbed or reflected by the water and won't reach the white colored object in deep water

So with a red hook in water that has very little light the red hook will appear to be black and may be harder for the fish to see. That would mean that the fish would be only seeing the minnow or feeling the minnows movement in the water if you are fishing with live bait. Or the fish could sense the jig with the red hook in the water and move in to attack based on it's lateral line.

Now a red hook in shallow water will appear red in color and may be easier to see.

There are many articles that have been written on how light and color baits are used in fishing.

I have some red wide gap hooks that I purchased to use when bass fishing with tubes next year.

I do know that come orange and red in a crank bait will help the bass fishing in the fall of the year. I think it's because the crayfish are more red in color at that time of the year. But these baits are used on KY lake and in water less than 10ft deep. But we caught bass on White colored Bombers Crank baits more than any other lure.



Has anybody give these a good try? Thanks CF