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Travisd
01-31-2014, 12:27 PM
When long line fishing( trolling ?) how long do let line out and what size jig head do you use. Also how fast? I found a formula to figure out when pulling crank baits for summer. But not really anything on long line. There was boat I was following last year and he was catching fish all day long I only caught 5. I past him and asked what he was using for color and he gave me some jigs but I still didn't catch any more. Then he said I was going to fast.

cookieman
01-31-2014, 04:02 PM
try 1.5 to 2

Gabepeeps
01-31-2014, 04:36 PM
Not long lining jigs. More like .8 to 1.2. Go to the South Carolina board and search long lining. There's an on going very informative thread there that can help you out a lot!

Fishorhunt
01-31-2014, 04:52 PM
I don't long line the traditional way.... at least I hardly ever see anyone doing it the way that I do where I fish.

I long line with floats and start setting 1-2 feet shallower than what ever the depth of the water I'm fishing in and each rod is set at different depths. I feel that I keep the bait in the strike zone much better this way. Some days the fish are hugging the bottom and other days their in the middle of the water column. You just have to find what depth that their at.

In cold water (30's and 40's) I fish .04 - .06 mph on my Terrova and as the water temp moves into the high 40's and 50's I'll run up to .08 and so on but, I usually troll on the slower side.


I use 2, 1/16 oz fly or tube jig and I use different colors on each rod until I find the color that they like the best. I"ll even change colors to the one that I'm catching the bigger fish.

Something else that I do is that I pull a drift sock so that I can keep a steady speed and my boat won't get blown side to side to bad in a strong wind.

The wind determines how much line I "pay" out. No wind I'll run them back 50 yards or so but, in wind I my have them as close as 10 feet to the boat.

I also set facing the motor of the boat so that I can watch all my floats and rods and I keep all my rods within arms reach.

When I troll I set the terrova to run me in a line but, I still work the side to side buttons a lot. I call it "zig zagging" and say I'm running a straight line at a steady speed I'll hit the button and make slight turn and what this does is increases the speed of the out side lines and decreases the speeds on the inside lines. This slight increase or decrease in lure speed and small depth change triggers a TON of bites. I hope this helps you some what.

usafret99
01-31-2014, 05:09 PM
You want to go .8 to 1.2. Usually the slower the better. Throw back behind you about 40 feet using 1/16 oz jig heads. I prefer southern pro curly tail jig bodies, but most will work. Usually darker colors in morning a little lighter in full sun. Black body chartreuse tail is my go to. I use yo fish wateree and caught most on that color. What lake you fish. Feb to April in South Carolina if you get in the coves with the other boats and do the above you will catch fish. Depending on funds you want a few different color jig heads and a small variety of jig bodies. Def want some black and red jig heads at min others would be white and chartreuse. Any more questions I'll help you best I can.

drill instructor
01-31-2014, 05:10 PM
Vary the amount of line out on your rods, a good long cast and a few feet further will do just fine. I mostly start out with 1/16oz jigheads and 6lb test line. The biggest problem ive seen with new longliners is using too heavy of line, then speed control. Depending on the time of the year your speed should be .8 to 1.2MPH, i never have been slower or faster that this range. Your in a state that has tons of longliners and most will help you out. I learned from some tournament fisherman and visiting crappie stores. There was an article on this site called, "The Art of Trolling" find that article and it will help for sure.

bluedrifter
01-31-2014, 05:23 PM
long lining is all about drag when it comes to getting your bait to the right depth. the best formula to figure this out is time on the water.

CrappiePappy
01-31-2014, 05:28 PM
Uhhhh ... I'm thinking you guys saying that you're moving/trolling at 0.04 - 0.08mph ..... REALLY MEAN 0.4 - 0.8mph.

.04mph = approx 3/4 of an INCH per second ( or about 3.8ft per minute)
0.4mph = approx 7 inches per second (or about 35ft per minute)

... cp :kewl

Fishorhunt
01-31-2014, 06:08 PM
Yes, sorry... I meant 0.4 mph

Travisd
01-31-2014, 08:52 PM
Thanks guys. This site has been extremely helpful. A lot of the questions I've been asking is kinda close to offshore salt water fishing. Except we fish at 3.5-6 knots in mph that's 4.2- 7.2. And our lines start at 75 yards- 500 yards behind the boat. Now that I have an idea it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Once again thank you all for the info.

crappieseeker
02-01-2014, 06:49 AM
When the fish are in there really good a complete idiot could catch them long line trolling. If they are in there and feeding as long as your speed is good you can catch fish even if you make mistakes, it is very forgiving.

"G"
02-01-2014, 08:34 AM
35 to 45 ft. Out and adjust my depth by speed.....slow down to go deeper and speed up to go shalower.

chiknlips
02-01-2014, 09:14 AM
I have started long lining and use floats at various distances from back of boat. I use a 40# thrust trolling motor (5 fixed speeds) on slowest speed. Do not have GPS equipment so I have no idea of how fast I am traveling. I will turn the motor off for a few seconds when I think I may be going too fast and return to the slowest speed. Is there a way that I can figure out how fast I am going in order to find the speed I need to be at?

ATM
02-01-2014, 11:01 AM
I have started long lining and use floats at various distances from back of boat. I use a 40# thrust trolling motor (5 fixed speeds) on slowest speed. Do not have GPS equipment so I have no idea of how fast I am traveling. I will turn the motor off for a few seconds when I think I may be going too fast and return to the slowest speed. Is there a way that I can figure out how fast I am going in order to find the speed I need to be at?

Buy a gps.

chiknlips
02-01-2014, 11:18 AM
Buy a gps.

Really? So no one can really tell, right? Just guess and enjoy time on the water, right.

SeaRay
02-01-2014, 11:19 AM
For you guys usings floats, how deep can you troll? I assume you are not using slip floats are the line would run up the float until the jig was at the top. So, if you are using fixed floats and you want to run your jigs 15 or 20 ft deep how do you manage that much line below the float??

I am hoping Gabowman will add his post here also. I fished with him and he has developed a very consistent method for controlling the depth he is running jigs and also a very consistent way to catch crappie. He is one of the more successful long liners on here along with several others on the SC forum that are very good at this method, including one whose avatar is Longliner, no less.

Tracker123
02-01-2014, 02:24 PM
Really? So no one can really tell, right? Just guess and enjoy time on the water, right.

There are a few phone apps that will work. Google gps speed app.

bluedrifter
02-01-2014, 03:56 PM
you can buy hand held gps units fairly cheap. you can also get small gps finders for alittle over $100.

"G"
02-01-2014, 05:21 PM
Yep GPS.....either phone or a handheld gps r a fishfinder that has gps or a Terrova trolling motor that has gps. Without one of these its just a guess

bluedrifter
02-01-2014, 05:27 PM
the terrova is about $1500 though.

CrappiePappy
02-01-2014, 05:34 PM
Really? So no one can really tell, right? Just guess and enjoy time on the water, right.

Before I had a GPS, and would troll jigs ... (using a 5spd TM) ... I'd just make a long cast and maybe add another 8-10ft of line to that, and just troll over a flat of known depth. I'd let line out until my jig bounced bottom, then reel some line in and keep an eye on the depthfinder so that I could reel in more line if I came upon a shallower bottom. Or, in some cases, I'd simply speed up and angle the boat towards deeper water before the jig would be encountering the shallower water.
Now, granted ... I was using ONE rod, and holding it in hand, BUT .... I still caught fish. And if I got hung up, I simply circled back & pulled on the jig from the opposite direction I'd been going. That usually freed the jig about 75% of the time.

Raising the angle of your rod upwards will also make the jig come up shallower.

A GPS will tell you how fast you're going ... but, you still have to factor in how much line you have out, diameter & type of line being used, weight of what you're using, and the size (resistance) of the type of bait being used. Trial & error experience will tell you as much as any "mathematical formula". IMHO

... cp :kewl

bluedrifter
02-02-2014, 08:37 AM
long line trolling, I think, is used to get baits out away from the boat and the fish that might be spooked by the boat. I would just troll crank baits if you want to know what depth your bait is at. now if you are trolling vertical then you can see your baits on your depth finder but heavier weight is used for this.

usafret99
02-02-2014, 10:54 AM
long lined for 15 years with 5 speed motor and didnt have a clue how fast we were going. just went as slow as we could and if we looked like we were going faster than everyone else and were not catching fish we just threw a five gallon bucket out the back of the boat and dragged it behind us. But like a previous poster said, when the fish are in the coves you would have to seriously be doing something wrong if you couldnt catch them. Back when me and my buddy were in the air force we couldnt afford to many toys so we fished out of a 12 foot john boat, cheap trolling motor and used our bass poles and we could catch just as many as anyone else in there trolling with us.:yikes